Here is a fun story to accompany the thread on Windows being less secure than OSX. I have to admit I was trying to stick up for windows a bit in that thread, but after my experience last night I change my position completely. Granted, my incident was experienced with Windows 2000 SP2, but I am still tainted from windows again now for it. I obtained a free older Dell Latitude from my office to give to my mother (the screen actually fell off her old laptop). The computer works fine (however it is 2 inches thick haha!) and all I had to do was load an OS. I decided to put Win 2k on it since it is a little older and only has a 6GB Hard Drive. So... I get Windows all loaded up and I installed my network drivers. I plugged in my network cable and immediately headed to the windows update site to obtain SP4 so I could install Norton Anti-virus.... Then it happened! Within 10 seconds of having the cable plugged in I got a spyware popup window GRRRR! I didn't even have time to get the computer updated so I could load my security software and the system already had problems. I then updated the computer and tried running Sypbot and Adaware but neither could get rid of the problem. The computer just got worse as time progressed and I ended up having to whipe it clean and get ready to start over again. The sad part is I was even behind a hardware firewall The lesson learned here... Windows security is horrible when you don't have the updates installed. However, it is kind of hard to install updates when you have to be connected to the internet to do so. I now stand on the OSX side of the fence 100%. Grr to Windows!