Business "impression". Your opinion?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by westla7, Jun 19, 2010.

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Which phone do you think makes better "professional" impression?

  1. iPhone (okay, iPhone 4 :-)

    104 vote(s)
    60.8%
  2. Blackberry (let's think of Blackberry Bold 9700 :-)

    67 vote(s)
    39.2%
  1. westla7 macrumors member

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    I run small business, and it's in IT. Have to meet different people, usually all techs, some are executives, Web, media/stuff. I see a lot of my clients pay some attention to gadgets/devices. May be it's just a small talk, but it happens pretty regularly. :) So, I wonder. My business again is small. I work hard to get every client. If it does take me to look better, work sharper, give better service -- I do it. For me it's important to make impression of professional. Please, don't want to flame about -- "everybody should speak basing on kind of service you provide, not looks".. yeah, yeah -- but I am not talking about referral clients, I am tlaking about new acquisitions. They are tough.

    So, which phone do you think just adds this extra tiny piece of professional impression. Blackberry or iPhone? My own understanding is that usually iPhone users are creative kind of people. Web designers, musicians, artists.. while Blackberry more on business side. More decision makers, IT executives, etc. are with Blackberry.

    Your opinion?
     
  2. twitchtwice macrumors member

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    i think the iphone makes you look more business oriented because you can do so much more with it. but in the end i buy the iphone because its the best phone you can buy (my opinion)
     
  3. army91c macrumors 6502a

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    Hmmmm I bet most people here don't use apple products so I'm sure they'll pick the bb. :rolleyes:
     
  4. westla7 thread starter macrumors member

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    The question is way different.
     
  5. westla7 thread starter macrumors member

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    Right, it's not about features, though. I am talking more about "look impression" :) Definitely more non-tech people think of Blackberry is the only "business" phone, but still I am working with IT crowd...
     
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  7. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    Personally I think blackberry does.
    The iPhone looks a lot more like a toy.

    Blackberry looks much more business like.
     
  8. QuarterSwede macrumors G3

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    When I see someone with a BB at work I think, there's someone who is tied to their job (not good in my opinion) and will read that text at 3am. In general, a work-a-holic.
    When I see someone with an iPhone I think, there's someone who keeps up with the current tech and knows when to put the job aside to have a good work/life balance.

    Of course, if you're running a business then you might see things differently. It really depends on what the person is looking for. You can't please everyone.

    I used to think that too but a lot more people are using iPhones as their work/personal phone I'm noticing, me included ... at least where I work (need access to contact list, SMS and email).
     
  9. westla7 thread starter macrumors member

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    That was my concern, just because iPhone came from "iPod device" :) Actually, iPhone 2G looked more professional, while iPhone 3G/3GS got too plasticish, too "toy-looking"... :-(
     
  10. westla7 thread starter macrumors member

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    Actually, I was thinking that Blackberry users are more tech-pros, because you know, the UI of Blackberry OS and iPhone's OS cannot be compared. Blackberry does require you some... hmm.. learning curve, I'd say.

    However, recently I talked with one person, far far far away from being techie, he is using Blackberry, and actually mentioned that for him it was easier than an iPhone. Just because basic phone functions, text messages and then email are so much easier. So, I guess I was wrong. ;-\
     
  11. fleshman03 macrumors 68000

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    iPhone gives the impression that you are forward thinking, innovative and young.

    Blackberry gives the impression that you are grounded in traditional business practice and steady.

    As someone going on interviews, I've found showing them some videos I've created on my iPhone always creates a great impression.
     
  12. TLewis macrumors 65816

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    What you asked in the poll, and what you really want to know are two different questions.

    As written, there's only one answer to the poll: Blackberry. Why? Because the Blackberry is still king in the world of legal, financial, real-estate, politics, and other business professionals. Yes, this may not be true in the IT/tech world, but that's not what the poll asked. And, yes, this is changing, but, again, that's not what the poll asked -- see today's article in the Washington Post called, "Will iPhones edge out BlackBerrys in Washington?"

    You seem to be asking, "What phone should YOU have to impress your clients?"

    Well, it depends on your clients: if your clients think that the iPhone is a toy (regardless of what people here think), your having an iPhone might be very bad. On the other hand, if your clients are unsure or don't really care, having an iPhone might be good. This does, of course, assume that you have a business-appropriate lock screen, home screen, and home screen apps (e.g., don't put porn pictures on your lock screen, or the kama sutra app where the client can see it).
     
  13. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    See I still feel that way. iPhone is a great phone for fun and evening hours but for work and communication tool the blackberry to me is just better for it.

    I figure a work-a-holic will be no matter what phone they have. But for me the blackberry just projects an image of better bussiness look.

    If it is all about looks the blackberry is the way to go. As for a phone not going to be big deal either way.
    I personally own a blackberry for my personal phone and most of the time it is either in my pocket and when I go to class I tend to throw it in my holster but I pull it out more often while at school so it is easier to pull it in and out that way.
     
  14. westla7 thread starter macrumors member

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    Well, this is what I explained in the first post. I understand that things are different in legal/etc. world. I am working in IT/tech, so that's the only industry I am interested in. There is no silver bullet for everybody and everything, not arguing here.

    Well, porn pictures and fart apps goes without saying.
    And I would LOVE to know what my clients could think. The problem is that there is NO way I would know that. First time client, basically I don't know his business in very details from the very beginning sometimes. That's why I polled here, just to ask more opinions, as there are probably some other IT business owners here. That would help me.

    Thanks!
     
  15. Hellishness macrumors 65816

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    Don't get me wrong, I'll buy a hundred iPhones before I touch a BlackBerry. BUT I do think that BB's look more professional and less toy-like. Can you do more with an iPhone? Yes, IMO. Do you look a little less professional with one? Yes, also JMO.

    Also, (IMO, don't flame) iPhones really suck for doing anything fundamentally phone-like. AT&T sucks, calling sucks on iPhones. Whose idea was it to have the 'Send' button so close to P and O while texting? And many people really just prefer physical keyboards. Still, I would pick and iPhone over a BB no matter what, except maybe when making a first impression on a potential client.
     
  16. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    Well that is an issue. Blackberry is a safe bet. iPhone best case will be view at the same level and worse case like a toy and hurt you.

    Also remember techy and geeks like to customize their phones to be very exact of what they want in notification and home screens. iPhone sucks in that department. Notification are very limited and well crap.
    Android phones can be tweak to hell and back again in what user wants between rooting their phones and then side loading apps. So in those geek department android can beat it out.

    Over all I think blackberry view wise is the safer bet no matter who you are dealing with. Even in your field you still have to deal with clueless people who will not be technical minded who easily will see the iPhone. other touch screen phones as a toy.
     
  17. westla7 thread starter macrumors member

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    Interesting comment, thank you. Obviously one can see a lot of adoption of iPhone in corporate world/businesses, but sometimes it's about the image. For some reason iPhone earned "gaming device" image ahead of everything else, I am afraid.
     
  18. westla7 thread starter macrumors member

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    You may be right, but there is always another side of coin. :) Again, it may be just people around me, but one of my friends, who is in IT too, owns iPhone (and is waiting for his 4 on 24th :) says that he sees all Blackberry users as clueless, outdated, and usually people who can't know a "s..t about technology" (in his own words). :) And he runs pretty successful IT business, and I actually got to know him because he was my client first. So, I believe, would I appear with Blackberry - he might not become my client.

    It's tough to figure out the whole "industry". But thank you all guys for your replies, that helps at least to understand something. ;-)
     
  19. TLewis macrumors 65816

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    Well, you do know what business your clients are in, right? For example, if your clients are in the legal or financial businesses, having a BB is probably safest. If your clients are in the tech business or maybe something like the medical business, an iPhone might be good. However, if you have an iPhone, it would be great if you could (easily, quickly, and understandably) show how apps, for example, make you more productive, or more responsive or faster/cheaper or something .... (Unfortunately, I can't think of anything. :( )

    Also, unless your clients deal with the superficial (e.g., entertainment :p ), I'm not sure that a BB or iPhone really makes that much of a difference. What probably matters a whole lot more is whether or not the client thinks that you're providing a good service. Are you reliable? Do you get the job done and on time (and keep in mind that what a client asks for in writing, and what he really really wants can be two unbelievably different things, resulting in unholy amounts of unhappiness, legal and otherwise)?

    Edit: lol, just read your post just above this one. There are always exceptions. :p
     
  20. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

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    End of the day it comes down to what phone works best for you because it is not like you really pull out your phone much.
    For me I went with blackberry because I do not like the iPhone and AT&T did not have any good android phones.
    Now if you look at my blackberry for a little while it becomes pretty clear I have tweak it out to exactly how I like it. I have a custom theme on it that is all bussiness. My LED light on it is tweak out to flash different colors depending on the message. The incoming phone call one is disco and far from professional.

    It is about choosing the phone that works for you. I like my blackberry great communication tool.
    For a communication tool blackberry hands down. It just does everything with communication well just better. The iPhone piss poor notification system kills it in that department.

    Surfing the web the phone and Adriod phones are just better but for info at a glance blackberry all the way.

    Hell I know people who are very good in the IT world and keep very upto date on everything but for his cell phone all he wants is a basic flip phone and that is what he uses. Now he does not need the commutation tool side of a blackberry or iPhone. He is interested in the android phones and may get one in a year or so but right now he has a basic flip phone and the guy is a great IT guy.
    Just goes to show you that the phone says very little. He has what he likes and works best for him.
     
  21. TuffLuffJimmy macrumors G3

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    While the iPhone doesn't seem very limited in corporate business connectivity, I think a blackberry bold looks more professional. Especially since everyone has an iPhone and blackberries are more business related.
     
  22. entatlrg macrumors 68040

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    I held on to my blackberry 9700 longer than I should of for that reason ... I had both the iphone and the blackberry at the same time but didn't like or use the blackberry very much.

    You'll meet people often, especially corporate people, or realtors etc that look at you sideways when you pull out your iPhone, some kind of chuckle, will make comments like it's a cool toy but not meant for business, or you're trying to be a 'hip' business executive .... I used to be defensive about it I think, I'd make quick come backs and show them so 'wow' things the iPhone does ....

    Now, my blackberry is long gone, I love my iPhone, for me it's leaps and bounds better than the BB ... I think WHO CARES, use your iPhone enjoy it and laugh at the corporate dudes touting their blackberry's thinking they're so much better .... they have NO idea :D
     
  23. scottness macrumors 65816

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    For appearance alone, I'll say BlackBerry. 1st impressions can be important.

    If your question were having to do with just about any other category, I'd get the iPhone.
     
  24. peterdevries macrumors 68040

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    The reason why you see more decision makers witheet blackberries is that their corporation do not support the iPhone out of security concerns etc. The reason why you see design studios etc more with iPhones is because they are more lenient on corporate standards than large corporations.

    I regularly work with decision makers and I work in a corporation that only supports blackberry. I carry around an iPhone and a blackberry, and I hate the latter with a passion. Everyone that sees me with both phones is only interested in the former. Our service desk is going crazy from managers in my corporation that want to switch to the iPhone. So many people from large corporations would actually get an iPhone if they could but are tied to the blackberry.

    So, go for the iPhone. People will be interested and you get to talk about it. This will create an informal relationship with these people that will help you sell. It doesn't help you anything (but also doesn't hurt you) if they ignore your blackberry if you decide to get one of those.

    All in all, go for the phone that suits your needs. Also consider that the iPhone is easier to use with multiple email accounts, which with blackberry is a pita. IMO the whole blackberry is a pita. Having used multiple ones, have hated them all.. But to each his own.

    Oh, and last but not least: the customer that bases his buying decision on your gadget will probably not be a serious customer in the long run.
     
  25. Eddyisgreat macrumors 601

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    lol wow some of you guys must eat nails for breakfast and have sharks for coworkers if the iPhone looks like a toy. What would make it less toy-like? More buttons? What purpose does that serve?

    For me, it isn't about simplicity, but cleanliness, something that I believe the iPhone does well. I mean, what looks more professional:
    [​IMG] vs. [​IMG]
    (both taken from flickr)

    Now i'm not saying the bold is the ugliest thing on the planet, not by a long shot. However, it's clear that RIM and Apple are not competing on the same fronts wrt design, yet Apple is being thrown under the bus for paying attention more to design. It's as if the "messy" data center is more "pro" because they clearly didn't spend much time tidying it all up, so that means they were busy racking new hardware and deploying servers, whilst the "clean" data center wiring is more "juvenile/amateur" because asthetics are obviously important.

    And before anyone says it I know that in a data center environment there are real gains to be had from having a clean install. Just using the above as an example.

    As far as functionality goes well...anyone who wants to argue the iPhones merits can show me how versatile their phone is when they want to do anything other than email ;)
     

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