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Buy MBP 15" or Mac Pro? Help Please

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exiag335

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Hello

I need to buy a new computer for use for doing graphic design, animation and music production.

I want to buy a tower but the Mac Pros have slower bus systems and weaker video cards than the MBP now.
I was waiting to see if new Mac Pros were going to be released this week but they were not.

Should I buy the MBP now and get the new Mac Pro whenever it comes out?
I plan on having both anyway.

Help Please
 
Uh... weaker video cards... sure... You do know that the MacBook Pro uses mobile cards, right?

It was impossible for the Mac Pro to have been updated at MacWorld.

Wait for the Nehalem Mac Pro and get that.
 
exiag335 said:
Hello

I need to buy a new computer for use for doing graphic design, animation and music production.

I want to buy a tower but the Mac Pros have slower bus systems and weaker video cards than the MBP now.
I was waiting to see if new Mac Pros were going to be released this week but they were not.

Should I buy the MBP now and get the new Mac Pro whenever it comes out?
I plan on having both anyway.

Help Please
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The mac pro's have a quad core processor compared to the dual core in the MBP and the video cards are way better, what are you on about? The mac pro's are about 2 to 3 times better than the MBP. Tallest is right, i would get the MBP now and then wait to get the Mac Pro in 6 months.

Im not really sure what help you need other than, well actually i cant say that here :p
 
I am sorry I meant that the cards are week and the bus system is slow compared to PC systems newer current tech. If they offered the Nvidia 8800GTX or the 9800GTX I would think about buying it now, but don't want to get outdated tech. This computer hasn't been updated for a long time.
But I need something now, thats why I am wondering if I should get the MBP and wait for the supposed update on the Mac Pro.
 
Tallest Skil said:
Aaaand both of those are grossly outdated, too.



As well it shouldn't be. It's not a laptop.
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I know but still better than the 8800Gt this is available now. Hope Apple starts putting current up to date good video cards in their machines.
 
kastenbrust said:
I dont think its really in Apples business model to care about GPU's too much, theyre not targeting gamers heavily, yet, at least not in the desktop range.
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And that's fine, you know? They don't have to target gamers; they don't have to have ANY gaming enthusiast cards.

But when their line of GPUs goes straight from "able to drive a monitor" (HD 2600) to "can singleprocessorly cure cancer... in 3D!" (Quadro FX 5600), there's a bit of a gap.
 
Tallest Skil said:
And that's fine, you know? They don't have to target gamers; they don't have to have ANY gaming enthusiast cards.

But when their line of GPUs goes straight from "able to drive a monitor" (HD 2600) to "can singleprocessorly cure cancer... in 3D!" (Quadro FX 5600), there's a bit of a gap.
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yeah your right, but that would put the price up considerably and Apple would be bummed out the market even more, theyre trying to find ways to cut their prices on all computers, Notebooks and Desktops by about 20% this year so i wouldnt hold your breath for a QuadroFX 5600 anytime soon.
 
kastenbrust said:
yeah your right, but that would put the price up considerably and Apple would be bummed out the market even more, theyre trying to find ways to cut their prices on all computers, Notebooks and Desktops by about 20% this year so i wouldnt hold your breath for a QuadroFX 5600 anytime soon.
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Mmm... not really. The price would only go up for those who want it. The crappiest card would still be standard and one could update to an actually-good-but-not-Crysis-at-60-FPS-VH-16AA-card or the Übercard if they wished.

It's been shown that if it's there, it will be bought.

And, wait... CUT their prices... you know that their cheapest notebook is now $200 more, right?
 
Tallest Skil said:
Mmm... not really. The price would only go up for those who want it. The crappiest card would still be standard and one could update to an actually-good-but-not-Crysis-at-60-FPS-VH-16AA-card or the Übercard if they wished.

It's been shown that if it's there, it will be bought.

And, wait... CUT their prices... you know that their cheapest notebook is now $200 more, right?
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Yes i know but average computer industry prices have dropped between 20-40% this year, and i was reading an article in the Harvard Review earlier by an ex Apple director mentioning that they plan to reduce their overall prices this year by 20% not to match industry standards because we all know Apple dont do that but to become more competitive because they want to grow their market share to just under 23%. Apple considers this 23% to be the ideal market share, not too big or you'll become bloated like Microsoft and forced to do everything the consumers demand, however not too small to be forced out, which nearly happened in the late 80's early 90's crash. So theyre trying to build their business model around this aim. This is reflected in some decisions which experienced and loyal Apple users have found bewildering in recent weeks, and have branded as blatent attemps at consumerism, and moving away from what the "loyal fans" demand, like no Mac Mini release.
 
Also i should mention under 23% market share means they arnt bound by US and EU trade competition laws to even consider licensing their O/S to any other companies. Microsoft fell into this trap with Media Player in 2004 and lost $800 Million in fines as a result.
 
fendol said:
You mean just under or always under 23%? To me 23% of all the whole market is likely borderline too much for apple, or at least to what most people are used to elitistically think about it :apple:
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I mean Apple would like to be just under 23% of course at the moment theyre about 15% but it varies all the time.
 
kastenbrust said:
Yes i know but average computer industry prices have dropped between 20-40% this year, and i was reading an article in the Harvard Review earlier by an ex Apple director mentioning that they plan to reduce their overall prices this year by 20% not to match industry standards because we all know Apple dont do that but to become more competitive because they want to grow their market share to just under 23%
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Not to match industry standards but to become more competitive. Mhmm... Slight contradiction in terms.

That EX Apple director doesn't work for Apple anymore. So he's really not the best source. IMHO.

If Apple never conformed to the rest of the industry, they wouldn't exist. They've made a few concessions over the years, for the sake of business over preservation of culture and image. If a price drop comes, that will be why.
 
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