Buy now? Not a general question;

Discussion in 'iMac' started by Shadow1psc, Feb 13, 2012.

  1. Shadow1psc macrumors newbie

    Feb 13, 2012
    Hello all,

    In anticipation of a 2012 refresh I've been perusing the forums since December in the hopes of any news or insight. Nothing much has come up, as you all know, and an Ivy Bridge release isn't even set in stone, so I really don't expect a refresh to be ready until May. I believe I've concluded that that's too long to wait, but I'd like to open a theoretical dialog based on a few assumptions/logic.

    Now, I'm aware that no one is privy to, or can accurately predict what is going to go into the next iMacs, and I'm certainly not here to open that can of worms debate because anything is possible, but I'll start with some background. I am a long time PC technician, but long time Apple fan. I even worked at Apple as a Creative for a time. I've always wanted an iMac for music production, but the price tag has kept me away. I absolutely fell in love with them as an employee, and I knew one day I'd eventually migrate from PC to Mac for my production needs.

    I finally have enough money to do so, and of course we're smack dab in the twilight zone. At first I was convinced that I should wait because I fell under the foolish notion that the $1,199 iMac option didn't support more than 8gb of ram (silly Apple website wording). I don't need a bigger internal hard drive, because good practice says I'll be dumping my audio on to an external Firewire 800 drive*, and I don't care about graphics performance as I do have a PC with dual 6870s. Here's where we enter in to a little bit of discussion, and maybe some of you in similar situations can help me out;

    First off, you have the 21.5" base/upgrade CPU difference. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but both CPUs are i5 2400S models. The only difference seems to be a 200mhz clock difference, which I assume is set by Apple in some weird marketing ploy. I don't really care if this is changeable, but with Turbo Boost I believe both hit around the 3ghz mark in top clock speed, and even if they didn't, CPU isn't really going to be my bottleneck in Logic or Pro Tools is it? I plan on going with 12gb of RAM, for reference, and have an MBOX 2 as my interface.

    Second area of discussion as it pertains to waiting for a refresh, let's say hypothetically Ivy Bridge is put into the new iMacs. I expect them to keep the equivalent Ivy Bridge i5s are your standard option, meaning we probably won't see a clock speed increase, and maybe push that 'performance gain' 5-10%? Like I said, I don't need bigger internal storage nor better GPU performance, so I don't think I'm too off-base here considering a current gen iMac am I?

    tl;dr - Planning on getting an iMac for Logic 9/Pro Tools (probably just Logic, unless someone can tell me that Pro Tools, even under a 32bit restriction outperforms Logic on a Mac?), and I don't think waiting for the refresh will make a huge difference vs. time spent waiting (I don't care about SSD or ram/gpu/bigger hdd sizes). Any thoughts and insight are greatly appreciated, planning on buying Friday :)
  2. jsolares macrumors 6502a

    Aug 8, 2011
    Land of eternal Spring
    One is i5 2400S and the other is i5 2500S, the first turboes to 3.3ghz the second to 3.7ghz.

    Ivy bridge will be around 10% faster and also cooler, but this is a desktop so that shouldn't matter much, on the rest... good luck with your decision XD
  3. yashi macrumors member

    Oct 13, 2011
    The only thing I see is that you mentioned putting your media on an external drive. You're potentially missing out on having USB 3 ports, which do data transfer much faster than FW 800. Otherwise, it sounds like you're set on getting it now, and I can't say I blame you since I did the same thing. :D
  4. Shadow1psc thread starter macrumors newbie

    Feb 13, 2012
    I considered the potential of USB 3.0, but if I wanted something that fast, I'd wait for prices to come down on both USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt external drives, and probably still go Thunderbolt. I am pretty set on finally having a machine that can really handle my ideas, so I'm really just looking for any logic that says waiting for an i5 3470S or w/e is going to be an increase in performance worth waiting 2 to 5 months for.
  5. madrag macrumors 6502

    Nov 2, 2007
    You already have the answer, you just wanted some "piece of mind".

    Your phrase "I am pretty set on finally having a machine that can really handle my ideas" says it all!

    Ideas can't wait, buy now you'll be happy.
    (obviously the new iMacs will be better, but I suppose in your case aren't worth the wait)
  6. Shadow1psc thread starter macrumors newbie

    Feb 13, 2012
    Too right! I got home, had dinner, the wife and I looked at each other, and we knew. It was time to buy. Ran out and bought it right then, have my extra ram coming today, and I'm going to install everything after a nice Valentine's dinner! Thanks for the replies :)
  7. Sackvillenb macrumors 6502a


    Mar 1, 2011
    Canada! \m/
    Well said! OP, I hope you enjoy your new computer! It'll be more than adequate for your needs! :)
  8. karmamule macrumors 6502a


    Jun 13, 2008
    Waltham, MA
    Congrats! I hope you have tons of fun playing with it tonight! :)
  9. madrag macrumors 6502

    Nov 2, 2007

    I know you'll be very happy and hope your ideas flow like water!

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