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mojay12

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Apr 13, 2013
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Hey everyone I need some advice

My windows (Sony Vaio Z i7 2011) notebook began failing on me in about April. I tried really hard and decided because I had a tablet I was going to do my best and be without a computer until WWDC.

It was very difficult for me to hold out, but I did in hopes of a Haswell rMBP, but as you all know that did not happen.

I did use a 13-inch: 2.6GHz rMBP for about 2 weeks, but I returned it because of some issues it was having, but during my use I did experience the pinwheel more times than expected just doing web browsing with some youtube videos and maybe iTunes. I was really suprised because although my Vaio Z pretty much crapped out on me, I never really experienced lag doing basic tasks.

Now, I am wondering should I just go with the new 2013 MBA or just go with a 13" rMBP

I do not do heavy tasks, but would like to have the ability to do occasional gaming. I just want my notebook to be somewhat future-proof.

So Should I:

A) Buy 2013 MBA
B) Buy 13" rMBP
or
C) Wait even longer (I would definitely need a notebook before school starts at the end of August)
 

Dwinguel

macrumors member
Feb 2, 2010
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Geneva, Switzerland
You never know with Apple, however an update to the rMBP before August is highly unlikely.

The integrated graphic card of the MBA is better than in the rMBP, so the MBA has the edge in terms of performance on that front. On the other end the rMBP will be able to play games at a higher resolution. But I would think that you won't be able to run these games at a high resolution because you will only have a discrete graphic card so for me the edge is with the MBA.

For portability the MBA is better as well.

In terms of performance otherwise, you won't see much difference between the 2 machines.

In terms of price, the advantage is to the MBA.

So I would say, get the MBA. You might want to upgrade to 8GB to be on the safe side over the long run (you can't upgrade afterwards as the RAM is soldered on the board).
 

jmpnop

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Aug 8, 2010
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First of all, do you want the retina display?

As for the internals, both the laptops come with integrated graphics which isn't great for gaming. The 13" retina display runs on integrated graphics which is weak. MBA is cheaper and was recently upgraded which makes it a better choice.
 

mojay12

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Original poster
Apr 13, 2013
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First of all, do you want the retina display?

As for the internals, both the laptops come with integrated graphics which isn't great for gaming. The 13" retina display runs on integrated graphics which is weak. MBA is cheaper and was recently upgraded which makes it a better choice.

I understand that they both have integrated which isn't great, but I do not game that much, so it won't really be an issue. And the retina display isn't a must have for me

So should I just go for 1.7ghz i7, 8gb, 512 SSD (max spec'd MBA)

256 gb might actually be enough for me

but you would say this notebook would be fine in comparison to medium-high spec rMBP
 

Dwinguel

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Feb 2, 2010
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Geneva, Switzerland
Just wanted to add to my previous post to say that there might still be an update to the MBP range this month, contrary to what I said yesterday.

Of course, no one knows, but if it doesn't happen this month, I don't expect anything until after the summer.

So you might want to wait 2-3 weeks to see first.
 

RedCroissant

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Aug 13, 2011
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It was very difficult for me to hold out, but I did in hopes of a Haswell rMBP, but as you all know that did not happen.

Is a Haswell CPU even likely at all for the rMBP? I ask this because the retina display requires more power to be able to push light through all of those pixels, so wouldn't that require not only a change to the CPU and a boost to the GPU as well?

What I think is more likely is that the non-retina display models will receive the Haswell update while the retina models will be updated with a newer CPU later in the year or even next year.

If I were you, I would go with a 15" non retina MBP. You get the separate GPU, higher RAM capacity, larger display....etc. and refurbished models are priced reasonably and could save you money over a fully maxed-out MBA.
 

appleisking

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May 24, 2013
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Is a Haswell CPU even likely at all for the rMBP? I ask this because the retina display requires more power to be able to push light through all of those pixels, so wouldn't that require not only a change to the CPU and a boost to the GPU as well?

What I think is more likely is that the non-retina display models will receive the Haswell update while the retina models will be updated with a newer CPU later in the year or even next year.

If I were you, I would go with a 15" non retina MBP. You get the separate GPU, higher RAM capacity, larger display....etc. and refurbished models are priced reasonably and could save you money over a fully maxed-out MBA.

I'm sure as long as they use a more powerful haswell processor it'll be fine. It's a must have. No way is Apple gonna sell their flagship macbooks with year old processors. The cmbps probably won't see an update at all. They're being phased out according to rumors but we don't really know for sure. The gpu will be updated to be sure. As for the op, I would wait until you absolutely need a new notebook. If that moment comes and there are no new retina updates, then get an air.
 
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