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Buy powerbook now? INTEL processors in next year's PBs?
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I bought a Rev D 12 inch in January with hopes of upgrading to the next processor, be it dual core or G5. Now with this announcement, I am glad I made the plunge because this machine will be at or beyond its first year by the time the first intelbook rolls out. I will go rev A because when they are ready to go, they are going to scream!
OS X on Dells
This has been tried before (by IBM with the original Microsoft PC-DOS) and it led to complete failure. (In ten years IBM was a bit player in a market it created.) This is well known, and an Apple exec (I'm too lazy to source the quote) has already said Apple will not allow OS X to be run on non-Apple machines. They'll achieve this by not using a BIOS and probably also by having some funky homebrew chipset.
This will ensure that only the true hardcore junkies will build unauthorized OS X boxes (as is currently done on Pegasus and Amiga motherboards in case you weren't aware). Apple will be satisfied if they can keep piracy in the subculture.
The reason Apple will be so anal about this is:
1) If anybody can have OS X on their Dell box, nobody buys apple machines, and despite all the OS Wars hype, Apple is a computer (read hardware) company that makes software in order to sell its hardware.
To put it another way, the reason OS X is so good, is so that Apple doesn't have to compete on price with Dell.
This has been tried before (by IBM with the original Microsoft PC-DOS) and it led to complete failure. (In ten years IBM was a bit player in a market it created.) This is well known, and an Apple exec (I'm too lazy to source the quote) has already said Apple will not allow OS X to be run on non-Apple machines. They'll achieve this by not using a BIOS and probably also by having some funky homebrew chipset.
This will ensure that only the true hardcore junkies will build unauthorized OS X boxes (as is currently done on Pegasus and Amiga motherboards in case you weren't aware). Apple will be satisfied if they can keep piracy in the subculture.
The reason Apple will be so anal about this is:
1) If anybody can have OS X on their Dell box, nobody buys apple machines, and despite all the OS Wars hype, Apple is a computer (read hardware) company that makes software in order to sell its hardware.
To put it another way, the reason OS X is so good, is so that Apple doesn't have to compete on price with Dell.
vatel said:
Of course someone will eventually find some hack to make it somewhat run on a basic wintel box. However, there will most likely not be support of any kind for it. Basically, it'll be done just for some geek to say "Look, I did it!" and then everyone will move on.
aswitcher said:
Because it would destroy Apple's hardware sales in a heartbeat. Was this supposed to be a rhetorical question?
wtmcgee said:
I think it will happen EVENTUALLY.
When Apple's market share gets significant (rivalling Dell that is) and the growth slows, THEN Apple will try to challenge Microsoft. But not anytime soon. Maybe in 5 to 10 years.
It would kill Apple's market share and the potential buyers aren't big enough to make up for the losses in hardware sales at this point.
Apple will never rival Dell. Apple is a boutique manufacturer, they sell great computers for higher prices. (I hope) Apple will be successful, but it's not in the game plan to be that successful.
BMW's are better than Chevy's, but BMW hasn't outsold them yet.
Macy's is better than Wal-Mart, but the people at Wal-Mart are not losing sleep over Macy's.
Ugg said:
Once they convert to Intel, I doubt you will see improvements released as a package deal like we were always used to. (Rev. A, B, C, etc.) Just like in the PC world, speed bumps and feature improvements will slowly and silently be added as they come available. Intel bumps their processors every few months or so. Apple won't on releasing a new Rev. when the time is right because if they do that they will fall behind PC's which will use the same hardware but continue their quiet improvement.
You Guys are Killing Me!
Jobs' Key Note is not even 24 hours old and people are now debating if they should wait for intel powerbooks. Hey maybe you can jump on the bangwagon of all the people who are still waiting on the G5 or all the "expected" hardware updates from San Fransico.
Bottom line any one who can wait on a powerbook, does not really need a new powerbook. I am glad I bought mine after the last rev, been enjoying it for months now and years to come.
Hey its your cash keep waiting, bottom line is no one knows jack about when the new powerbooks will come out.
Jobs' Key Note is not even 24 hours old and people are now debating if they should wait for intel powerbooks. Hey maybe you can jump on the bangwagon of all the people who are still waiting on the G5 or all the "expected" hardware updates from San Fransico.
Bottom line any one who can wait on a powerbook, does not really need a new powerbook. I am glad I bought mine after the last rev, been enjoying it for months now and years to come.
Hey its your cash keep waiting, bottom line is no one knows jack about when the new powerbooks will come out.
IJ Reilly said:
No
Its a technical one.
I am more hopeful now we know that this change wont work on anything but an Apple. I thought this might be the end of Apple
shane-o-mac said:
LOL, that's very true. Well, at least with the Intel switch we know that a x86 PowerBook or iBook is coming next year (mid to late.) The thing with the G5 PowerBook rumors was that we didn't know if it was coming next Tuesday, next year, or possibly never. Well, now 'never' seems like the surest case...