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Resolved Buying advice : 17-inch Powerbook
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yeah basically the same model but fot the upgraded ram and os.
my main concern with the first one is i can't buy any os disks from apple anymore and even if i could they aren't available in egypt, the second one comes with yosemite pre-installed, that's my main draw.
my main concern with the first one is i can't buy any os disks from apple anymore and even if i could they aren't available in egypt, the second one comes with yosemite pre-installed, that's my main draw.
The latest operating system releases are free and are downloaded through the Mac App Store. Any OS from 10.6 up can upgrade for free to El Capitan, the latest operating system.
About that, I actually have my Hackintosh on 2GB of RAM, running El Capitan on an SSD. I don't notice any slowdown whatsoever, apps always work the way they should.
I think it's because of the SSD, so the swap file is really quickly accessible.
The SSD really compensates for the lack of RAM, in my 13" 4GB was unbearable in Yosemite and it drove me nuts in El Cap. 8GB offers much better performance and I find myself using around 5 or 6 GB of RAM, which explains the slowdown.
I would recommend a 15 or 17 inch 2006 MacBook Pro. They can run Snow Leopard and some can run Lion (if not all).
The good thing about intel MacBooks, when Snow Leopard support is as bad as say, Leopard or Tiger, you can just install Windows on them. Can't run Windows on a PowerBook, only OS X or Linux which will give you even more limitations.
The good thing about intel MacBooks, when Snow Leopard support is as bad as say, Leopard or Tiger, you can just install Windows on them. Can't run Windows on a PowerBook, only OS X or Linux which will give you even more limitations.
I was just able to download El Capitan on my early '08 MBP running Snow Leopard.
The first computer linked is running SL at least-the App Store button is visible on the dock(plus I think that SL was current when these machines shipped).
I would buy the first over the second if it's less expensive.
The first computer linked is running SL at least-the App Store button is visible on the dock(plus I think that SL was current when these machines shipped).
I would buy the first over the second if it's less expensive.
kinda of defeating the purpose of owning a mac if i've to use windows on it
yeah it's less, i now found a black macbook for just 189 dollars, i actually might go for that
Yes you can. Just not natively, which is perhaps what you might mean?
Virtual PC 7 and the Q emulators give you that option. Granted, running Windows XP using those emulators is stretching their capabilities pretty far but I've been able to get Win 7 Pro installed on VPC 7. It runs like a frozen turtle but it runs.
Be forewarned that the newest Blackbooks will not run anything newer than 10.7 officially due to the 32 bit EFI and GPU limitations(although I have 10.8 running on mine). The first generation CoreDuo ones stop at Snow Leopard(hard block, no workarounds as these are 32 bit processors).
I love my Blackbook, but again given what you seem to be shopping for a 2009 White Macbook or a late 2007 Macbook Pro should probably be your minimum targets. Blackbooks still carry a premium, and you should be able to get a newer White Macbook for a similar price.
Well yeah, virtually they can, I used XP on my 600MHz iMac back in like 2010, but it was no where near fast.
Also, I really wish I new my 600MHz iMac was rare when I gave it away..
Currently Snow Leopard or Lion will run just fine. I just mean when you move on to a new Mac, when the MacBook gets horribly outdated, you're not stuck with old versions of OS X.kinda of defeating the purpose of owning a mac if i've to use windows on it
Apple hasn't changed the system requirements for OS X since 10.8 came out in the summer of 2012. The beauty of most older hardware(MBA excepted) is that you can keep doing things like increasing RAM or adding SSDs to keep them running well. At a bare minimum, that means that any Mac today that can officially run El Capitan is probably going to have security updates for another 3 years even if they are dropped after El Capitan.
In all honesty, at this point there's no end in sight for my Mac Pro 1,1. As long as folks keep hacking OS X to keep it going, I can keep sticking newer GPUs in it and keep going. I'm good for the time being at 16gb of RAM, but it can handle a lot more(it just gets really expensive).