Bye iPhone 4, hello ARM Cortex-A9 Dual Core 2Ghz phone with Android 3.x!

[aohus]

I think we all know the iPhone 4 is the best smartphone out there. for now..

...but within a few months, the iPhone4 will be obsolete, and there will not be a refresh until June 2011.

I will personally go Android 3.x, as it is confirmed it will have a revamped UI as seen in this clip, and the phones coming with Android 3.x will sport 1.2 - 2 Ghz dual core processor. Add Tegra2 chipset and you're going to see a huge upgrade in GPU performance, as shown here.

I'm not trying to bait/troll, I'm just pointing out what the future of smartphones will look in the near-future.

only caveat i would assume is, whats the point of a high-spec'ed phone if the apps (google marketplace) are crap? this here, apple has the edge in my opinion.

 

[insidmal]

you really think there will be a dual core 2ghz phone before june of next year?

 

[SiskoKid]

Make sure to hold it correctly like these other smart phones:

* Samsung I9000 Galaxy S: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LROTHrTR92k

* HTC Evo Signal Attenuation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pj2YBYTbag

* Samsung Galaxy 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

* Samsung Galaxy 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPCQdYtPihg

* Droid Incredible: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaDE941PzQk

* Droid Incredible (With Network Extender in Room): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpEQH9_A5jw&feature=related

* Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEIA_lMwqJA

* Nexus One vs. iPhone (start at 1:29): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMoV4_C4aA

* Nexus One: http://posterous.com/getfile/files.p...n_-_iPhone.m4v

* Nexus One (after Google's update to correct): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2g5J4qPp54

* Nexus One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deCkjeHYT-g

* Android G1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CDaxhjUs9M

* "Major signal degradation when Nexus One is picked up" (N1 Thread on On this Problem): http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=34ae2c179184c33e&hl=en

 

[ChocolateApple]

Cooliris beat them to that photo scrolling, but does it better. There's a Cooliris app for the iPhone.

I agree that there probably won't be a red sign until June 2011, but I also thicken the media has blown ins out of proportion for sensationalism.

 

[old-wiz]

Lots of luck on battery life with those specs.

 

[aohus]

i mentioned nothing about dropped signals. i'm talking strictly performance. its quite obvious nobody is reading the OP so might as well delete the thread.

Cooliris beat them to that photo scrolling, but does it better. There's a Cooliris app for the iPhone.

I agree that there probably won't be a red sign until June 2011, but I also thicken the media has blown ins out of proportion for sensationalism.

Cooliris is owned by Google, FYI.

 

[thrust]

I think we all know the iPhone 4 is the best smartphone out there. for now..

...but within a few months, the iPhone4 will be obsolete, and there will not be a refresh until June 2011.

I will personally go Android 3.x, as it is confirmed it will have a revamped UI as seen in this clip, and the phones coming with Android 3.x will sport 1.2 - 2 Ghz dual core processor. Add Tegra2 chipset and you're going to see a huge upgrade in GPU performance, as shown here.

I'm not trying to bait/troll, I'm just pointing out what the future of smartphones will look in the near-future.

only caveat i would assume is, whats the point of a high-spec'ed phone if the apps (google marketplace) are crap? this here, apple has the edge in my opinion.

heard this since the the iphone 3g tho mate, it's not going to happen unless apple let other phones use the Ios :/


edit: just watched that clip with the photo's on android :/ sry but it's only showing you a person flicking photos and i side side pan that is useless, am i missing somethin?

 

[aohus]

Lots of luck on battery life with those specs.

that is my primary concern. im getting the feeling that battery life will be atrocious. next batch of phones will probably be in the 1.2 - 1.5 ghz range max.

Make sure to hold it correctly like these other Droid phones...

thanks for compiling a list of Motorola Droid + Android based phones. FYI, Droid is the term for Motorola Droid series, and android is the OS from Google.

 

[TJunkers]

...but within a few months, the iPhone4 will be obsolete, and there will not be a refresh until June 2011.

Why exactly? I mean I'm not all about the iPhone. I love the look of the Evo and android isn't a bad OS at all, but the iPhone 4 is so much better of a phone than any android phone I've ever used. It's been faster, better battery life, tons more apps, and just all around easier. If you do switch, that's your choice, but you may come back sooner than you think!

 

[aohus]

Why exactly? I mean I'm not all about the iPhone. I love the look of the Evo and android isn't a bad OS at all, but the iPhone 4 is so much better of a phone than any android phone I've ever used. It's been faster, better battery life, tons more apps, and just all around easier. If you do switch, that's your choice, but you may come back sooner than you think!

it will be obsolete spec wise, but in terms of real-world usage, that remains to be seen.

power consumption, and the number of apps on iPhone are definitely advantages that apple has. we will see what iphone competitors come up with in the coming months

 

[thrust]

it will be obsolete spec wise, but in terms of real-world usage, that remains to be seen.

power consumption, and the number of apps on iPhone are definitely advantages that apple has. we will see what iphone competitors come up with.

so you think specs make i better phone?

do you think better GFX make a better game aswell?


just asking

 

[JulianL]

i mentioned nothing about dropped signals. i'm talking strictly performance. its quite obvious nobody is reading the OP so might as well delete the thread.

Since you care about performance then I think you're making a reasonable decision. I get the impression that Apple don't target pure performance, it's a blend of battery life and performance, so if you stay in the Apple world then you're stuck with the tradeoff that Apple choose since they're the only supplier. In the Android world you have the chance of buying a mobile phone equivalent of a gaming PC, i.e. a speed demon.

Another factor is that with competitors leapfrogging each other then yes, Apple is top now, and yes, in 6 months Android will leapfrog them I suspect (just in terms of CPU/GPU performance) but what if Apple leapfrog the Android world again in 2011? Are you willing to always stay with the frontrunner and change phone every 6 months?

For what it's worth, I don't think that Apple will present you with this dilemma in 2011 because I think that they still have an eye very solidly on battery life as well as performance so if the next generation of Apple silicon could offer 3 times the performance within the same power envelope then I strongly suspect that they wouldn't deliver all that benefit as performance, rather they might offer a 50% performance hike while at the same time doubling battery life (I'm just making those numbers up for illustration, they're not intended to be precise predictions).

- Julian

 

[aohus]

so you think specs make i better phone?

do you think better GFX make a better game aswell?


just asking

i believe in faster performance, so yes, higher specs does normally mean better productivity in the long run when interacting with it. it all depends on how google integrates their OS to each handset makers' specifications.

yes, apple has the advantage in the fact that they control both hardware + software integration. its why they can make devices with such long battery life.

 

[SiskoKid]

i feel like techie jim crowe laws are in effect.

btw, a lot of mobile-based forums discuss phones from their competitors for comparison sake. nowhere in the rules does it say you cannot talk about Android phones.

Did you seriously just compare that to Jim Crow laws!?

BTW, a lot of mobile sites do have discussions, but this is hardly a discussion starter. It's obvious what you're trying to do under the guise of "just pointing out what the future of smartphones will look in the near-future."

Give me a flipping break.

 

[aohus]

heard this since the the iphone 3g tho mate, it's not going to happen unless apple let other phones use the Ios :/


edit: just watched that clip with the photo's on android :/ sry but it's only showing you a person flicking photos and i side side pan that is useless, am i missing somethin?

huh? these arm9 phones will be running android, not iOS. arm9 isn't dependent on OS. its more the other way around

that clip is just a preview of the new android os slated for Q4 '10. they haven't done a full public press release on the next android cycle (dubbed 'gingerbread')

 

[Zaft]

2.2 froyo hasent even come out for all phones and your talking about 3.0?

your in for a long wait.

 

[thrust]

i believe in faster performance, so yes, higher specs does normally mean better productivity in the long run when interacting with it. it all depends on how google integrates their OS to each handset makers' specifications.

yes, apple has the advantage in the fact that they control both hardware + software integration. its why they can make devices with such long battery life.

your answer surprised me

it is all about software at the end of the day and this is where apple excel right now the iphone OS is to find a better word brillant on a business point of view, i.e can not get destory by 3rd party they are totally in control the reason why it runs so good.

but you agreed that better spec means better devices which is not right at all,never has been that it is just the manufacturers way to suck people in.

 

[aohus]

2.2 froyo hasent even come out for all phones and your talking about 3.0?

your in for a long wait.

im in it for the long haul because all these phones, including the iPhone4 are arm8 cortex phones. im just waiting on a processor refresh.

 

[Zaft]

im in it for the long haul because all these phones, including the iPhone4 are arm8 cortex phones. im just waiting on a processor refresh.

android and ios are already fast I don't see the point.

 

[aohus]

android and ios are already fast I don't see the point.

thank God you're not in the tech industry.

btw, lets open our minds here. faster processor means you can play higher res games, play 1080p, multitask faster, and the dual core processors are better with power conservation. myriad of improvements with faster processor.

 

[pdqgp]

thank God you're not in the tech industry.

btw, lets open our minds here. faster processor means you can play higher res games, play 1080p, multitask faster, and the dual core processors are better with power conservation. myriad of improvements with faster processor.

So hi resolution games on my phone are a compelling value for me to want an Android with a faster processor? About as compelling as wanting to flip back and forth between my photos faster than I can already do. That vid wasn't really impressive if you ask me.

The problem with the Android market vs iPhone is they are introducing "technology" vs Value. I see no business need to have a phone with a faster processor. My iPhone 3Gs is pretty fast for the apps that I'm using today. Once the need for better apps are there, then the apps are created and require a faster phone, then I'll jump.

No different than my 400hp Caddy. Sure, I could jump to the new 565hp one, but I have zero reason. I've yet to come across a need for another 565hp. My e-penis is already 9" long.

 

[aohus]

your answer surprised me

it is all about software at the end of the day and this is where apple excel right now the iphone OS is to find a better word brillant on a business point of view, i.e can not get destory by 3rd party they are totally in control the reason why it runs so good.

but you agreed that better spec means better devices which is not right at all,never has been that it is just the manufacturers way to suck people in.

actually, apple is great at making their products because they integrate BOTH software and hardware fluidly. thats why they call their A4 an SoC, system on a chip, because the A4 processor is intertwined with iOS. this is the sole reason why they can make superior smartphones compared to that of their competitors.

and yes, traditionally, higher specs means a faster device. denying that would be saying that a pentium chip is faster than a core i7 chip.

So hi resolution games on my phone are a compelling value for me to want an Android with a faster processor? About as compelling as wanting to flip back and forth between my photos faster than I can already do. That vid wasn't really impressive if you ask me.

The problem with the Android market vs iPhone is they are introducing "technology" vs Value. I see no business need to have a phone with a faster processor. My iPhone 3Gs is pretty fast for the apps that I'm using today. Once the need for better apps are there, then the apps are created and require a faster phone, then I'll jump.

No different than my 400hp Caddy. Sure, I could jump to the new 565hp one, but I have zero reason. I've yet to come across a need for another 565hp. My e-penis is already 9" long.

You're already bringing up an issue that i mentioned in the original post, that even with a faster smartphone, whats the point if the apps aren't there to utilize the faster core speed.

The video wasn't meant to impress, I was merely pointing out that Google is revamping their UI, and whats shown in the video is only a preview, the UI can totally change by the time Android 3.x, or whatever it may be called, is released.

I dont know what you mean when you say android is introducing technology over value.

that could be said with apple as well, as most assuredly, the next iphone will have an ARM Cortex-A9 processor in it as well.

 

[serialtoon]

I think we all know the iPhone 4 is the best smartphone out there. for now..

...but within a few months, the iPhone4 will be obsolete, and there will not be a refresh until June 2011.

I will personally go Android 3.x, as it is confirmed it will have a revamped UI as seen in this clip, and the phones coming with Android 3.x will sport 1.2 - 2 Ghz dual core processor. Add Tegra2 chipset and you're going to see a huge upgrade in GPU performance, as shown here.

I'm not trying to bait/troll, I'm just pointing out what the future of smartphones will look in the near-future.

only caveat i would assume is, whats the point of a high-spec'ed phone if the apps (google marketplace) are crap? this here, apple has the edge in my opinion.

That photo gallery is from Android 2.1. I wish i didnt sell my Nexus One after all this garbage with the iPhone 4.

 

[phearx]

huh? these arm9 phones will be running android, not iOS. arm9 isn't dependent on OS. its more the other way around

that clip is just a preview of the new android os slated for Q4 '10. they haven't done a full public press release on the next android cycle (dubbed 'gingerbread')

No offense, but the nexus one can already do everything that is in that clip. Actually that isn't showcasing anything new considering that UI is exactly the same as the nexus one since 2.0, do some research before posting useless dribble.

 

[dccorona]

I think we all know the iPhone 4 is the best smartphone out there. for now..

...but within a few months, the iPhone4 will be obsolete, and there will not be a refresh until June 2011.

I will personally go Android 3.x, as it is confirmed it will have a revamped UI as seen in this clip, and the phones coming with Android 3.x will sport 1.2 - 2 Ghz dual core processor. Add Tegra2 chipset and you're going to see a huge upgrade in GPU performance, as shown here.

I'm not trying to bait/troll, I'm just pointing out what the future of smartphones will look in the near-future.

only caveat i would assume is, whats the point of a high-spec'ed phone if the apps (google marketplace) are crap? this here, apple has the edge in my opinion.

All I see in that video is the photo gallery on the current nexus one, not any new UI features in android 3...am I missing something?

Oh, and that hardware sounds good on paper...sure
but have fun with a battery that lasts 15 minutes and a phone that sets your pants on fire when its running

Just to clear things up, the term 'Droid' is trademarked by Motorola.

then how come the Droid Incredible and Droid Eris are both made by HTC?

Droid is simply Android phones marketed by Verizon