Calibrate Samsung 2243BW

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  1. Cybix macrumors 6502a

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    Just wondering if anyone is using a Samsung 2243BW with a Mac and if they have some settings/profiles they would like to share... been monkeying around with it since I picked it up yesterday.

    James
     
  2. GoKyu macrumors 65816

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    It won't really help to get someone else's monitor profile, even if they have the same monitor - *EVERY* monitor is a little bit different and each must be calibrated individually if you want the results to be accurate.

    If you're not doing high end color correction, a Pantone Huey or Datavision Spyder Express would work fine for around $70-80. I got the Eye-One Display 2 from X-Rite from Norman Camera for about $160 or so. (It's one of the better pro models, but at a great price!)

    -Bryan
     
  3. Cybix thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    maybe I should find someone willing to lend me the gear to calibrate it, or a hire place or something.. hrmm
     
  4. Cybix thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    This screen is now driving me mad, It's not nice to look at, yellow and blue. urgh. I can't get it right. Looking at it on any angle except dead straight gives nasty yellowing too...

    wondering if I should return this display and just fork out for a 20" ACD unit instead... :(
     
  5. TSE macrumors 68030

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    I have a 22' LCD Samsung 2232BW that I use with my Dell Laptop and MacBook Pro all the time, didn't need to do anything with the color, just fixed the contrast a little bit, besides that it works great.
     
  6. Cybix thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Well, I'm sure it works fine on the Dell, different Gamma, different OS, etc. Most of these types of monitors are somewhat calibrated from factory to work with PC's/Windows.

    I've never owned or tried a monitor that has not needed some kind of calibration to work nicely with a Mac.

    The supplier came back to me and said that they would be willing to swap it with another one. I doubt that is going to help my situation however :(
     
  7. GoKyu macrumors 65816

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    This is the first Samsung that I've owned that I'm not entirely happy with - shadow areas on the screen tend to dither....badly...causing blocky artifacts. This is, however, also my first Mac, so I think I'm gonna need to reinstall windows on my other PC and see if it's giving the same problems there.

    Oh, and I definitely had to calibrate the screen when I originally set it up in January - the contrast was VERY lacking (like there was a bad yellowish color cast over the entire screen.) Calibration fixed the problem, and I set the gamma to the PC standard of 2.2, rather than Mac standard of 1.8.

    -Bryan
     
  8. Cybix thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thanks for the heads up. I sat down just now and re-calibrated with 'expert mode' in apple's calibration tool. It looks MUCH better (no more yellow!) but it's a fraction too blue at the moment.

    I'm going to try to track down someone who will loan me their calibration device, or try hire one, or just buy one. I need my photo's just right. I do a lot of prints, photobooks, etc. I'm not a pro, but I know what does and doesn't look good :)

    James
     
  9. kalex macrumors 65816

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    Take a look at HueyPro. I just picked one up for $30 used. its much better than doing manual calibration. if you need something more advanced go for the eye-one display 2 model

    Alex
     
  10. ChrisA macrumors G4

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    I has to be re-calibrated periodically, every month or so. Just spend the $60 and get a cororimeter and the software. But unless you are doing photography it hardly matters. For office use or games you can use Apple's colorsync to do a good-enough eyeball based calibration
     
  11. Cybix thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I'm post processing photo's in aperture.. hence the requirement for a calibrated screen.

    James
     
  12. jason999 macrumors member

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    That won't help. Get Samsung to set it up for the Mac which is what I did.

    TSE uses it on a Dell and a Mac.

    We have two Samsung 2243's. One on a Mac and one on Windows xp.
    The first 2243 I bought was for xp. Worked a charm. I do graphics work for various mags using Adobe Photo shop cs3 extended v10.

    For $450 oz they are the only screen to get. They are not perfect but none are. Technology hasn't quite arrived for lcd's yet. Other brands are no where near as good as the samsungs.

    Bought the 2243 for the Mac and off centre a yellowish tinge was visable.
    Could not work it out. Took it back and on the stores xp and vista systems it worked well. Took it back home and connected it to my xp system and it was fine but not on the Mac.

    Ended up contacting Samsung support via one of their support centres and took in the screen with my Mac and they set it up for me. Didn't cost me a cent. Mind you I was polite. I guy there before me was screaming at them and had to pay for them to set it up on vista.

    I've looked at other screens. They all bleed badly. The Samsung can bleed
    but not as bad as the others. My xp config is the duo with the ati sapphire card. My mate bought the 2243 samsung and it didn't look as nice as on mine. He ended up getting the same card and all is well with his screen now for adobe photoshop.

    For $450 you really can't expect a perfect screen. Not even the expensive ones are perfect. For now we must put up with these little quirks until screen progress to the point where they are perfect.
     
  13. jason999 macrumors member

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    I am very happy with my Samsung 2243bw on my Mac and Pc running xp pro.
    Perhaps it i syour video card that is not up to it or perhaps it needs calibration from Samsung to work on your Mac. I had problems with the Mac and it wasn't until I took it into Samsung with the Mac an dthey fixed it up nicely.

    Getting myself the Samsung 2253bw next week for a second screen on my Pc running xp pro.

    I use ati sapphire cards and get great results. A mate of mine bought the 2243bw and found bleeding was quite poor, calibration fixed most of it but changing to the same card as I have and its just about perfect.
     
  14. Mr.Noisy macrumors 65816

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    Samsung Monitors are good, but the supplied software is cr@p,
    leave at factory settings and get a good calibration kit, i used a spyder on my samsung before defecting to dell, but ive got a 30" Samsung on the way and my faithfully spyder kit's waiting ;)
     
  15. GoKyu macrumors 65816

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    Well I have the default video card that comes with the Mac Pro - everything looks good except when it comes to shadow areas in certain photos.

    I'm calibrating monthly with the X-Rite Eye-one Display 2, and I use Photoshop and Lightroom on nearly a daily basis.

    I tried my monitor again on the PC side, and it's giving me the same results, so I think something may be wrong with this screen - I also just noticed a dead pixel a few days ago (one lone red pixel near the top of the screen...)

    I do still have my Samsung 19" monitor so I *could* go to that if I send this one back to Samsung, which I think I will....The Mac Pro does come with a DVI to VGA adapter, right? (My 19" Samsung is VGA only.)

    -Bryan
     
  16. jason999 macrumors member

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    Samsung has a zerro dead pixel warranty, so I'd get it replaced with another one. In oz these have a 3 year on site warranty.

    I use photoshop all the time at work and at home too. At the office they bought 10 samsung 2243's in. I have two at home, one on a mac and the other on a pc.

    I rarely use the Mac but sometimes work requires the use of the Mac.
    I mainly use win xp pro. More useful tools on xp pro than that of the Mac.

    The work computers are mainly windows xp pro with a few macs.

    Macs are simply a pain to set up for screens where windows never requires anything done to it. Long ago Windows was trying to catch up to the Mac and make a pc like a Mac. Now it would seem Windows not only caught up to the Mac but surpassed it and left it in its wake.

    Surely Macs ought to build a tool into their systems so that when people buy addons like screens that they can be adjusted more easily.
     
  17. Jiddick ExRex macrumors 65816

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    This is most likely not what you want to hear but every 22" monitor is a TN, thus very crappy. Some are of course better than others but generally TN panels as big primary displays means a lot of calibration headaches and horrible viewing angles... :(
     
  18. jason999 macrumors member

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    On a Mac. Never had any troubles on a windows pc with calibration.
    Macs require us to buy a calibrator :(

    Video cards have a roll to play too. Use the wrong card and notice bad bleeding across the screen with high quality photos or doing work in adobe photoshop.
    I use the ati sapphire card. My mate had some other brand of card and bought the same screen as I did and he noticed lots of bleeding on images. He ended up getting the same graphics card as I have and the bleeding of pixels disappeared.
     

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