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California Joins New York in Effort to Weaken Smartphone Encryption
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As big as we are with the many major ingress / egress points that surprises me not.
Why he chose what he did I feel was to trigger an emotional response not as a result of the actual severity. Otherwise he would have picked something the populace knows much more about. Trafficicking is the "let's not mention this much" issue here.
The correct title of the NY and CA bills: The Cyber Criminal Enabling Act.
NRA paraphrase: When encryption is outlawed only outlaws will have encryption.
Irony: Not too long ago officials in NYC and San Francisco demanded improved device security to reduce the theft epidemic.
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NRA paraphrase: When encryption is outlawed only outlaws will have encryption.
Irony: Not too long ago officials in NYC and San Francisco demanded improved device security to reduce the theft epidemic.
DS
Strawman...
Strawman...
Strawman...
See how easy is it to dispute random gibberish?
Just saying that spying methods might be something from the 1940's.
If they want to catch criminals or terrorists maybe they should find a new way instead of mass surveillance.
Although I can see how encryption can ease up criminal activities by sending information/orders back and forth between criminals to plan the next big drug/weapon/child-pronography/terrorist/coup deal.
If they want to catch criminals or terrorists maybe they should find a new way instead of mass surveillance.
Although I can see how encryption can ease up criminal activities by sending information/orders back and forth between criminals to plan the next big drug/weapon/child-pronography/terrorist/coup deal.
I'll bold the important part of my post:
I think what drives me craziest is that hardcore criminals can use other encryption tools.
I think what drives me craziest is that hardcore criminals can use other encryption tools.
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I think we are singing of the same hymn sheet: I mean high-risk targets ie convicted criminals, or other high-risk suspects, [paedophiles, terroists] contextualised by evidence, prior convictions. The latter would need judicial approval, like a warrant. However, I never stated any governmental agency should have unfettered access to out data, to the contrary i stated the opposite. Furthermore, if a judge must demand a potential suspect to hand over their passwords, what if the case is time critical, ie a kidnapping, hostage situation? Or the suspect is incapacitated or has forgotten the password, or simply refuse, being held in contempt of courts vs being convicted for murder, rape, theft, etc, i wonder how coperative the assailant would be in such context. In these situations, i think it would be prudent that a judicial review awards e-warrants to search personal data, as it would be in the greater public interest.
Again, these are my subjective assertions, and I appreciate differing viewpoints,
Or...
Code:
10 FOR l = 1 TO 10 STEP 0: REM A zero step makes the loop infinite
20 PRINT "Give up your rights as a human being OR be guilty of supporting child pornography"
30 NEXT lWe are dealing with some advanced AI here it seems.
Governments don't care about child trafficking or pedofilia, look at the pedofile scandal right at the heart of the British establishment, going on since years and years. US has had it's fair share as well.
This along with terrorism and human trafficking are not the real concerns, these are all "problems" created by the same power structure that is very eager to introduce its solution of creating a global facist society. The script is there in 1984. We are there.
CP is sick, that goes without saying for me, but the hysteria will not help.
It just became public that the FBI ran one of the biggest networks for CP, on their own hardware in Virginia. That's interesting, they hosted and shared CP with ALOT of people. It was in order to catch them, but still... That's another topic.
Yeah, that's not good enough to take away my privacy. You can't take all my rights away to protect the life of everyone else. Will never happen.
It's amazing some of the things that can be done with BASIC these days...
The problem with mass surveillance and data gathering is the volume. You quickly reach the point (the NSA ran into the same issue) where you literally have too much data to effectively utilize it.
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While the writing level may have been "dumbed down"; maybe on purpose, he did point out the fallacy of your arguments; your premise (s) were built strictly on the needs of the one outweigh the needs and rights of the many or the few.
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"If you're a bad guy [we] can get a search record for your bank, for your house, you can get a search warrant for just about anything," Cooper told Ars in a brief phone call on Wednesday afternoon. "For the industry to say it's privacy, it really doesn't hold any water. We're going after human traffickers and people who are doing bad and evil things. Human trafficking trumps privacy, no ifs, ands, or buts about it."
I wasn't aware that any law was allowed to trump the US Constitution (just ask the gun rights folks). When you give up your rights, you give up your freedoms one at at a time until none are left. And if privacy doesn't matter, then I'm sure the US government will be happy to finally tell us the truth about Roswell, JFK, Area 51 and about a BILLION other secrets they claim are somehow necessary for national security when in fact that cannot be verified in any way, shape or form.
People need to start voting these people out of office that want to take your Constitutional Rights away from you. I'm an Independent and I steer left on human rights and empathy issues but right on Constitutional rights and fiscal responsibility. The problem is NO ONE represents me. The Republicans LIE about their goals (to hide the fact their only true goal is to give tax breaks to the top 1% plus many of them are religious fanatic types that don't want to regulate anything except your personal life) and far too many Democrats want to control EVERYTHING to the point of absurdity in most cases (except Wall street; they can do whatever they want, it seems). There are no "reasonable" people out there because reasonable would mean not using your political office to make money somehow and since you have to be rich or serve someone rich to get into the highest offices, that means there's not a snowball's chance in hell of getting a truly honest person in Washington.
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http://kryptall.com/index.php/2015-09-24-06-27-29/k-iphone-secure-cellular-communications
Saw this in a magazine today.
Saw this in a magazine today.
When will take stories like these with a grain of skepticism ? The one story that flew over your head is AT&T Helped NSA Spy on array of Internet traffic. So it does matter what you do or what device you use they will still spy on you!
Exactly why encryption is important. Sure, they can "spy" on it, but it's just a stream of scrambled bits.
You didn't read it. How do I know this? BECAUSE IT WASN'T A STORY!
Try again: http://kryptall.com/index.php/2015-09-24-06-27-29/k-iphone-secure-cellular-communications
Any update on this bill (CA-Assembly-Bill-1681)?
On line info is silent and calls to his office are met with "no comment".
On line info is silent and calls to his office are met with "no comment".
Perhaps because the lawyers are digesting what the freedom act patriot act amendments actually mean to backdoors on all cellphones...
... or is Terrorism the lie used to strip us of our civil liberties? The game is a foot and the gov is using every angle to strip us of our right and diminish the constitution. Make no mistake every time something like this happens is an attack on us, the citizen.