Caller ID service needed for Photo ID?

[tryppy]

Afternoon!

I had a question regarding the caller ID service. I'm in Canada and would be going with Rogers Wireless.

If one has decided against taking the caller ID package from the cell provider, would the name or photo still appear on the screen if they called and were in the iphone contact list?

Or do you need the caller ID service for that?

Thanks

 

[TEG]

We don't know, as it is built in to the service, almost everywhere. All you really need is the number, which you iPhone will check against your contact list to display a name and photo.

TEG

 

[View]

I'm not sure, but I think it will be something like "unknown" on the screen when there's an incoming call, so no, your phone will not be able to recognize it.

 

[atszyman]

We don't know, as it is built in to the service, almost everywhere. All you really need is the number, which you iPhone will check against your contact list to display a name and photo.

TEG

My best guess would be that you won't be able to do the photo caller ID without caller ID. Doesn't the phone get the source phone number through caller ID data? I don't think I've ever seen any information displayed on a phone that does not have caller ID so I would assume that name and phone number are only transmitted when the caller ID service is enabled and without any of that information the phone will have nothing to parse your contact list against.

 

[tryppy]

Thanks for the replies everyone.

Rogers charges 15$/month extra for these services;

iPhone 3GVisual Voicemail Value Pack

Visual Voice Mail
Call Display
WhoCalled™
2500 Sent Text Messages

*Get the 1st month for FREE

Hoped I could dance around it if the number was stored in my phone already.

 

[thedarkhorse]

it will just come up as "unknown call" without caller id.
All caller id is doing is telling the phone what phone number is calling you, the phone displays the name and picture after it cross references the number with your contact list.

 

[Ntombi]

A friend and I actually tested this (sort of) this weekend. I called her iPhone, and my pic popped up. I turned my "show my caller ID" setting to Off (in Phone setting), and called her again. It showed up as blocked on her screen. It just said "Blocked," and rang with her default ring, not the ring she has for me.

I was actually happy to see how simple it was, because I've had a blocked number for years, and I was uneasy about switching to an unblocked number for 100% of my calls*. Now all I have to do is finish taking all the "*82" from in front of all my contacts.


*No, I'm not doing anything naughty, just don't want to broadcast my number to all and sundry when I'm calling to get something free from craigslist or something.

 

[ViViDboarder]

A friend and I actually tested this (sort of) this weekend. I called her iPhone, and my pic popped up. I turned my "show my caller ID" setting to Off (in Phone setting), and called her again. It showed up as blocked on her screen. It just said "Blocked," and rang with her default ring, not the ring she has for me.

I was actually happy to see how simple it was, because I've had a blocked number for years, and I was uneasy about switching to an unblocked number for 100% of my calls*. Now all I have to do is finish taking all the "*82" from in front of all my contacts.


*No, I'm not doing anything naughty, just don't want to broadcast my number to all and sundry when I'm calling to get something free from craigslist or something.

Recently some Phreakers cracked that system to find your ID info anyways.

 

[Ntombi]

True, but if they want to work that hard, whatever. I'm not exactly hiding. I just don't want to broadcast from the rooftops, KWIM?

 

[atszyman]

it will just come up as "unknown call" without caller id.
All caller id is doing is telling the phone what phone number is calling you, the phone displays the name and picture after it cross references the number with your contact list.

There is other information along with the phone number. I often get caller ID information like company or individual's names that are not programmed into my phones so information stored in the phone company's database is also transmitted.

Of course your address book is also cross referenced and name custom ringtones and photo ID will override what information the phone company sends if the number is found.