The iMac most certainly not the first all in one. There were single board computers long before the mini.....dont overstate the contribution of Apple
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Cambridge Awards Jony Ive With Honorary Degree in Science for Design Work at Apple
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They ought to rescind the honorary degrees they're dishing out to Cook and Ive.
Have Oxford and Cambridge seen what they've done to iOS 10?
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[doublepost=1466111273][/doublepost]Hold on, doesn't the picture look like Jony Ive is awarding Tim Cook the honorary degree?
We have an imposter!
Have Oxford and Cambridge seen what they've done to iOS 10?
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[doublepost=1466111273][/doublepost]Hold on, doesn't the picture look like Jony Ive is awarding Tim Cook the honorary degree?
We have an imposter!
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It pales, I agree, but there is still science in design. The use of specific colour and shapes evoke certain emotional responses which are baked into our ancient psyches, and interfaces are designed by studying how humans best interact with their environment. Unlike art, design can be taught because of the scientific data it's based on.
Er, the guy has a BA in Industrial Design.
I could imagine engineers raising eyebrows, let alone people in science.
That's actually the good parts.
That and John Cleese.
It's tempting to blame individuals, especially when a design impairs one's ability to interact with a system (the negative effect can be very personal), but no matter what an individual's job title or public profile within an organisation: that individual ultimately works in concert with others. Sometimes a great concerted effort can have a less than great outcome.
Interesting, thanks, I'd like to learn about that baking-in.
My early frustrations with prerelease Yosemite grew into a belief that Apple had either (a) not performed all appropriate studies, or (b) ignored or overlooked some of the results.
To all the naysaying self appointed design critics here - MEOW!!
I felt the same thing when I attended the graduation for the engineering degree. Apparently, accounting, business administration are science too...
Wow, why so much hate? You all seem to forget what computers looked before Ive designed the first iMac. He changed singlehandedly the whole computer industry design. Every computer component was strictly a grey or beige box before the iMac. A few months after the iMac introduction you could walk into a electronic department and buy a transparent external HD, a glossy printer or a bondi blue windows mouse. PC manufacturers started to care about design. Why is Lenovo making a gold colored laptop? Because Apple started it all a decade ago. Yes Ive became lazy in recent years. Still he will be remembered for turning a whole industry upside down. The first iPod and the first iMac will be in one line with the Anglepoise lamp, Panton chair, Ray Ban Pilot and so on.
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This ranks right up there with Obama's Nobel Peace Prize and Al Gore's Oscar.
Laughable.
Laughable.
What a joke...
This is a slap in the face of people who actually have to work hard with stuff that really matters. Why is he being honored in the science category?! What's next? Are they going to give a similar award to the kardashian family in the area of sociology? This world is really f¥€ked up...
This is a slap in the face of people who actually have to work hard with stuff that really matters. Why is he being honored in the science category?! What's next? Are they going to give a similar award to the kardashian family in the area of sociology? This world is really f¥€ked up...
There is science in design, in accounting, in business administration. The science is in the studies in those fields that determine things like how people interact with user interfaces (design), what patterns appear in financial transactions and how to apply that knowledge in auditing and forensic accounting or to government fiscal policy (accounting), how game theory studies can be applied to be more competitive in business (business administration). All these studies use scientific processes in their respective fields. There is science in all these fields. If the degree focuses on the pursuit of further knowledge to drive advancement in these fields using the scientific process then I fail to see how these are NOT science.
Holy ****, the disrespect for industrial design is real with you.
Now I wouldn't say Ive's deserved this doctorate for recent contributions, but he's certainly done a lot of positive work whilst he had still been on Jobs' leash... (I know, I know...)
As soon as Cook let him tackle interface design and I realized the mess they had come up with eventually I wasn't as much of an Ive fan anymore.
Heh, certainly Apple knows how to make goodbyes feel less cruel post-Jobs.
Once Ive retires I won't be sad anymore. (I would have been until he showed me his flat fad vision and thinned all those devices beyond usefulness)
Once Cook retires I will be happy. (Not much to say)
etc...
I'm sure there's lots of great talent at Apple, it's just that they need the right executives to really let their genius come through again.
Oh look, new emoji! That saved my day!
Glassed Silver:mac
so you design something better and make more money. Oops sorry my MacRumors culture is showing.
I know, I'm a bit too Mr Angry. It was the part of rhe citation that states "in recognition of his impact on the world of computing" that got my goat. Also, in my opinion, from an academic standpoint I don't think Ive warrants such an honour - I don't hold ID in contempt, it is a critical element of product success, but Ive has tended to take a relatively clunky "mark 1" design (remember the first phone and tablet) and rapidly optimise for size, weight and surface finish - not exactly ground breaking. The end result is great (high desirability and hence replacement rates/profits for a couple of iterations) but it has left Apple nowhere to go......hence all the criticism in many places about the current lack of innovation.
The only thing I agree with Ive on is that the Skeumorphism in a lot of apps was ugly and had to go. It was a cute trick of having a high resolution gui, but really wasn't in line with the minimalist esthetic of Apple. Which is why all the tacky gold. rose gold stuff, and the silly "look at how thin our iMac is" has taken me by surprise.
Either way, I don't think people who design (or manage the design of) computing products should be treated like Nobel Laureates. And I extend that criticism to the cult of Jobs as well.
It's a freaking can of coke with ICs inside. Not the cure for cancer.
Either way, I don't think people who design (or manage the design of) computing products should be treated like Nobel Laureates. And I extend that criticism to the cult of Jobs as well.
It's a freaking can of coke with ICs inside. Not the cure for cancer.
@pat500000 open your eyes.
@Speedy Dingo it's clear that in your rush to put down a person, you did not properly read this topic.
First: what exactly did you see in Ive and in the other eight faces above?
Then, more importantly: what exactly do you see in the same eight faces in the accompanying photos? If your pixellated face/mind-reading powers can't extend to all six photos below (Ive was second, not first, in a series of seven published by the University) then can you at least mind-read the audience in the first?
Sure.
I love the Bondi iMac as much as the next guy.
I don't think that's a fundamental contribution to humanity's well-being, though.
Also in my eyes it's offset by the overall effect on the computer industry, which, 20 years down the line, is obsessed with glossy screen, extreme thinness, unusable keyboards and awful cases which, a few manufacturers aside, make me nostalgic for the days of nondescript beige cases
I'm not too upset at the fact that Ive was awarded an honorary doctorate, though, because... well, it's a PR stunt, all honorary doctorates are, what do you think, that he'll be given tenure after this?
Let the guy have his cake
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Sorry, the field of design is not a science, nor do designers investigate things using the scientific method.
Then again who actually cares, it could have been a degree in theology - it's pretty much worthless and purely symbolic.
Let the guy have his cake
Let all seven have their cakes
Not fundamental, but (of the seven people who were honoured) this person's work is debatably the closest to humanitarian:
"Physician and immunologist Professor Sir Keith Peters was awarded a doctorate in medical science for his work in medical education and research. The Honorary Fellow of Christ's College and Clare Hall and Cambridge's Regius Professor of Physic Emeritus was instrumental in transforming the University of Cambridge's Clinical School into a world-class centre for clinical research and teaching, as well as planning London's soon-to-be-opened Francis Crick Institute."
I find https://www.google.co.uk/search?q="science+of+design"+site:ac.uk thought-provoking. Thanks again @Steeley
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Bunch of Harry potters.@pat500000 open your eyes.
@Speedy Dingo it's clear that in your rush to put down a person, you did not properly read this topic.
First: what exactly did you see in Ive and in the other eight faces above?
Then, more importantly: what exactly do you see in the same eight faces in the accompanying photos? If your pixellated face/mind-reading powers can't extend to all six photos below (Ive was second, not first, in a series of seven published by the University) then can you at least mind-read the audience in the first?