Recently watched BBC’s Click ( UK tech programme ) , they compared the 12 Max Pro to the ahem Huawei P40 . The 12 Ma Pro won out on the video side of things but the P40 produced better detailed photos.
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Camera Comparison: iPhone 12 Pro Max vs. Google Pixel 5 vs. Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra
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Pixel wins IMO, but I’ll also say that I don’t see that degree of blueish tint in my 12 mini photos.
No photo expert here, but doesn't the Note 20 looks the most real as in reflects what your eye see?
The iPhone is the worse it has like all algorithm enhancements. I never understood people who like this stuff, I thought pictures meant to capture what we see as identical as possible at least thats what the ol' SLR cameras where what you see is what you get.
The iPhone is the worse it has like all algorithm enhancements. I never understood people who like this stuff, I thought pictures meant to capture what we see as identical as possible at least thats what the ol' SLR cameras where what you see is what you get.
cameras need a lot of correction to resemble what the eye can see. your eye continuously processes imagery and autocorrects it with context. for example, a camera can adjust exposure or amount of light it receives but it's done in a dumb linear way - in order to capture detail in bright areas you can lower the exposure, but then shadows are completely dark. your brain will actually process areas in shadow and make out detail, while also keeping bright areas from just looking white and that's what HDR tries to achieve for example. your brain does a lot of white balance corrections because it knows what is supposed to be white.
anyway, without any post processing, the images will look nothing like what your eye sees.
Is there a filter activated on the iPhone? Why is everything so blue? Something is wrong with those pics.
Actually the iPhone pics aren’t comparing so well here. Enough that some of us wonder what’s wrong that’s causing the blue tint. I just got my Max yesterday so I’ll have to see what my results are whenever I get to check it out myself. I’ve only got the S20 and Pixel 3 XL to compare so it’s not going to be the same.
The new 12 cameras definitely have some quirks I am learning my way around so I can get the best results for myself. Just little things like remembering to hold still for myself even after I think the photo has snapped in low light shots.
Strange that we're focusing on the apparent blue cast on the iPhone photo when, to my eyes, I'm seeing a definite yellow cast to the Android phones which would make the iPhone look more blue by comparison. If I were working with those photos, I would definitely tone down the yellow in the color balance on the Android photos. I'm not sure I'd change the blue on the iPhone photo.
And the other boat images are shifted toward the yellow, especially the Pixel.
Right, it is subjective. Do you think consumers legitimately compare and contrast four different smart phone camera photos? Like I said, they’re so close in comparison, I don’t think anybody really takes notice of a slightly different blue tint over another competitor. Not to mention, how many different filters people are applying to their photos or editing is a whole another topic of discussion.
I think some people compare and contrast them when they’re considering reviews. But no I don’t think very many people walk around comparing different brands of smart phone photos unless they’ve got a YouTube channel for that sort of thing or they’re an eccentric twit like me.
I was surprised to see these results because my own experience with iPhone photos has them looking more warm than blue and less saturated than Samsung photos up until the last generation.
I have no idea how the reviewer got those photos. This doesn't seem to be the case for me. I have a Pixel 4, which is said to produce better photos than Pixel 5 by some reviewers. Previously I always preferred to use it over my iPhone 11PM. But after replacing 11PM with 12Pro, I really feel 12Pro produces better photos, especially for those quick-taken photos.
Apple needs to fix the processing on the iPhone cameras. That's the bottom line.
The review pointed out the poor edge detection on the Pixel, but it's horrifying on the iPhone. That's without talking about it making everything look like CGI.
Color science is everything in a camera. The ability to turn off auto enhancements is also important.
Each of these cameras flounders in some situations, that's clear, but there are fixable real issues with the iPhone. It's incredibly capable....and this is only going to get worse if Apple thinks people love it. Next time we'll get a super fast telephoto, but objects will look like photorealist paintings, run though an IG filter.
The review pointed out the poor edge detection on the Pixel, but it's horrifying on the iPhone. That's without talking about it making everything look like CGI.
Color science is everything in a camera. The ability to turn off auto enhancements is also important.
Each of these cameras flounders in some situations, that's clear, but there are fixable real issues with the iPhone. It's incredibly capable....and this is only going to get worse if Apple thinks people love it. Next time we'll get a super fast telephoto, but objects will look like photorealist paintings, run though an IG filter.
Well i just bought an iphone12 last week.i was very excited to check out the camera...so I went out in evening to take some night photos but I was really disappointed. The photos in night mode or even the regular mode were just so pixelated. I dont know what to do.pls help if it's happening with their phones as well.
I am so disappointed with my new iphone12 camera. The pixelated images are driving me nuts.the 'genius ' at genius bar says the exposure and environmental settings where u clicked the picture wasnt right.does anyone has same problem?
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If an entire image looks like it was shot through a tinted filter, you can't get those whites back easily if at all.
If background details are blown out, and blurred, you're limited what you can bring back.
What they're showing here has been blatantly evident in the majority of photos posted here.
I am so disappointed with my new iphone12 camera. The pixelated images are driving me nuts.the 'genius ' at genius bar says the exposure and environmental settings where u clicked the picture wasnt right.is it normal ? I m so frustrated. Can anyone help?
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@harmoniumfarfisa This is a (flagship) phone model comparison, so it is sensible to use the default camera apps. However, what, I think, could also be helpful is to try and showcase some of the top third party apps, such as ProCamera and Camera+, even if they're used in the same, simple, point and shoot method as the Apple Camera app i.e. no professional adjustments.
Possible followup article?
Possible followup article?
There is obviously something going on with the Computational Image Manipulation. The good news is that can be fixed/adjusted with software updates. The low-light performance is very impressive for a phone camera.
dxomark found the same blue/green (push?) on the pro and pro max
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dxomark found the same blue/green (push?) on the pro and pro max
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Note 20 ultra definitely won to my eyes overall....iPhone was a mess
Yeah, that was my first question, and it's sounding like the issue is at the OS level. Maybe the Apple RAW update will help but we are seeing samples shot on third party apps with the same processing. Whatever is causing the crude masking, with no depth, pancaked images or the distortions on busy images are still there in third party apps. At least so far. I think the color correction is possible for the blue tine, but it won't be any different than if you used a slider in post processing.
The reality is that Instagram and Snapchat are driving a huge portion of camera phone demand. You can't blame them for catering to that market by default. I realized I was no longer in the target demographic once Apple started making a big deal about new Emojis.