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Camera Comparison: The New OnePlus 10T vs. iPhone 13 Pro Max

H2SO4 said:
Don't wanna be that guy and this is a genuine not gotcha question but not having seen the original image with our naked eyes how can any of us determine how washed out or saturated any reproduced image really is?
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We have a massive accumilation of stored images of people we can recall and compare to these images. I can tell when the skin color just ain't right. The guy's arm in the iPhone photo is over saturated and poorly white balanced. I have never met anyone whose skin has a bright orange glow.

And his face has that rosy glow of someone who's half way through a bottle of Jack Daniels.

I prefer the less is more approach of the other phone.

Both phones over process the photos, but then unprocessed photos ain't gonna wow the average Joe. RAW images from my DSLR looks very ho-hum (under saturated, not so great contrast). Post production is where we season to taste, as it were. My problem is that these phones don't season to my taste.🙃
 
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lkrupp said:
What do comparisons like this one do other than provide fodder for trolls and egg on nerd rage? Is ANY iPhone owner going to switch to this brand based on this comparison?
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Not a lot. I've yet to see a photograph's strength and ability to communicate driven by a particular camera choice.

It's about the photographer. Not gear.

As a photographer, my iPhone 12 happens to be my camera of choice.
 
The point of this isn't Apple vs Everybody; it's where does a $649 mid-tier phone stack up in camera quality versus the $1,200 Apple flagship. No surprise to me that the iPhone looks better, but for half the price the OnePlus is perfectly competent. All the same, I'll just hang onto my iPhone.
 
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appleguy123 said:
The One Plus photos look nice, but they don't look like reality. The image of the fake plant especially. It looks like a charcoal drawing.
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With the plant (with the candle), I think the one plus was a bit dark and the iPhone was too light. Something in the middle would have been better. Not bad for a phone that will be about 1/2 the price.
 
Octavius8 said:
Long time since an iphone was the king of phone-cameras. Now barely above “standard”.
Why we can’t disable Deep Fusion HDR or whatever is called in iPhones anymore???. I hate it sometimes.
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Yeah the Sony IMX766 is basically just a mid-range camera sensor, nothing special, there are android smartphones with much better main camera sensors.
 
hagjohn said:
With the plant (with the candle), I think the one plus was a bit dark and the iPhone was too light. Something in the middle would have been better. Not bad for a phone that will be about 1/2 the price.
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I get that phones have different color sciences and that it’s a matter of personal preference which one people like for the most part. But the plant image from the one plus phone literally doesn’t look like something that you could see in reality with human eyes.

The reflections in the glass look way more prominent than they could in real life (as if the reflection were rendered in photoshop and the phone is turning the opacity of the reflection up), the wall and the base of the pot appear to be at the same depth when they clearly aren’t in reality or in the iPhone version. The table on the one plus version looks like it’s made out of crystal clear water, not glass. If I saw a table with reflective properties like that in real life I would think I was clandestinely dosed with a hallucinogen.

I totally get wanting to have the prettiest photos from the phone, but cameras are fundamentally tools for capturing reality, not just creating something that looks pretty. And the one plus phone is just doing a ton that makes it unfaithful to the actual subject it’s capturing.
 
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I had a OnePlus 8 Pro a few years back and added a line to my T-Mobile account to play with an Android phone for the first time in years. The phone itself was fine, but the camera was ass. I always had to take both phones with me because I only wanted to take pictures on my iPhone. After a while, I realized why I hadn't used Android in years. The phone and OS were fine, but the apps are garbage on Android.
 
I think for the cost the OnePlus does an amazing job especially looking at their history in the camera/image department. I am personally not a fan of the brand, but these are some (for the most part) good looking photos and while I agree with the posts in here about them looking a little more dull, I think that is a fair compromise for being like half the cost.
 
M3gatron said:
Yeah the Sony IMX766 is basically just a mid-range camera sensor, nothing special, there are android smartphones with much better main camera sensors.
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Think apple know this and why they are getting far bigger and a better main sensor this year. Will see how it competes.
 
The Game 161 said:
Think apple know this and why they are getting far bigger and a better main sensor this year. Will see how it competes.
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Meh. Won't make much of a difference until they improve their image processing algorithm. Apple is too aggressive with its image processing: over saturated, blown highlights, poor white balancing and so on. If there is a way to customized the how much the phone processes the image, you'd get much better results. All to often I see folks with top notch camera gear taking gawd awful pictures. All the gear, but no idea. Sad really.

Y'all ain't gonna notice the difference between prime and select ribeye steak if both are cooked well done ie over cooked.
 
TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 said:
OnePlus 10T seems to be showcasing lower contrast. I do like the fact it starts with only $649.00.

Hands down! iPhone wins! Wait till iPhone 14 Pro Max is released with 48MP. It's game over!
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I'll respectfully disagree ... iPhone camera quality has been laxing lately against many of the competition.

You're hoping to 48MP (dual-pixels btw, not full 48MP) while others like Sony are killing with REAL WORLD useful Optical Zoom + Digital Zoom at 120fps for both video (stereo audio hi-fidelity sound) and 20fps+ photo bursts with colour accuracy done with aplomb.

that 48MP dual-pixel will mean nothing if we still get Len's Flare in any light pointed at the sensor - even off-center which is what we have with 12/13 series. Len's quality and coating is JUST as important if not more than the sensor itself.
 
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H2SO4 said:
Don't wanna be that guy and this is a genuine not gotcha question but not having seen the original image with our naked eyes how can any of us determine how washed out or saturated any reproduced image really is?
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Hey, it's good you're being that guy! It's a perfectly valid question. I think the best way to address it for online comparisons (since none of the readers can see the actual scenes) is to show the phone photos alongside minimally-processed reference photo from a top-quality DSLR (which has been previously checked for color accuracy).

Plus the photographer doing the comparison should include some shots of subjects taken inside their home or studio using reproducible lighting, so that they can, after displaying the phone photos on a calibrated display, compare them to what the reference subject looks like in real-time. That way that can really say how accurate the colors are. [It's an additional check beyond using the DSLR.]
 
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DeepIn2U said:
I'll respectfully disagree ... iPhone camera quality has been laxing lately against many of the competition.

You're hoping to 48MP (dual-pixels btw, not full 48MP) while others like Sony are killing with REAL WORLD useful Optical Zoom + Digital Zoom at 120fps for both video (stereo audio hi-fidelity sound) and 20fps+ photo bursts with colour accuracy done with aplomb.

that 48MP dual-pixel will mean nothing if we still get Len's Flare in any light pointed at the sensor - even off-center which is what we have with 12/13 series. Len's quality and coating is JUST as important if not more than the sensor itself.
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Sony's releasing the Xperia 1 IV for $1600 on September 1 and it looks like they're going to make the camera their top priority: https://electronics.sony.com/mobile/smartphone/all/p/xqct62-b

Also, the top 4 phones by DXOMARK score are all Huawei or Xiaomi with Apple being in 5th place: https://www.dxomark.com/smartphones/ I know these scores aren't everything but I've seen reviews of many of these phones on GSMArena's YouTube channel and the samples are quite impressive:
youtube.com/watch?v=tjsObusw7-U&t=356s
youtube.com/watch?v=Vk1qlvt8wqI&t=286s
youtube.com/watch?v=3HrazJSa00Y

So, when you compare phones within the same price range (as opposed to what was done in this article), you'll find that the iPhone's lead diminishes.
 
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