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Good one. Gotta laugh at one of the comments saying their 2mp SLR is better than our iPhone. What a joke. Basically, what he is saying is that he has a 1999/2000 era Kodak DSLR, if it was even 2mp, in the over-sized behemoth that it was, is better than our palm-sized, app drive, geotagged, HDR enhanced touch screen AF, etc. camera. Yeah right.
I have 6 DLSRs, ranging from D3 to D70ir (modified) and a bunch in between...and I PREFER shooting with the iPhone. Granted, I usually have at least one DSLR with me along WITH the iPhone, but it is usually the iPhone image that gets all the glory.
I too have plenty of DSLR's from previous years of use in my studio and I will absolutely say without a doubt my 3mp Canon D30 will blow away the iPhone 4s in every test you can come up with in terms of IQ and performance.
If you have a D3 or even the D70 and you take better pics with an iPhone, then you need to stop buying gear period.
I assume though, you were being sarcastic.
I didn't say the iPhone was better quality...but that I PREFERRED the iPhone!
And WOW!! Whats up with the Thumbs Down! Really???
I think the iPhone 4s camera is a paradigm shift...a true catalyst in the next stage of development and growth of photography.
I bought the iPhone 4 without service BEFORE I knew I could take the iPad simm out and use it in the iPhone with the express purpose of having a wifi Computer/GPS/MP3/Camera. I ended up getting a lot more with the 3g chip.
Now, with a REAL iPhone, I get a whole lot more. I think the P&S camera died last week. Truly. Just MHO, but I advised my Photo I students to not buy another P&S. There is just no real reason to buy an overpriced, low quality P&S that offers so little, compared to buying even an old iPhone 4. I did advise them to buy an economy DSLR.
Of course the DSLR is better. Duh! But, it doesn't fit in my pocket. It isn't nearly as easy to hold over my head or on the ground. It doesn't upload photos immediately to various accounts. It doesn't geotag with out an awkward attachment. It doesn't have built in HDR. In fact, with Apps like ProHDR and Dermander, I can do what would take HOURS of work on the computer, in minutes.
I pretty much live photography every day...I teach it, I do service and work outside of school, and I shoot for fun just about every chance I get. I am shooting the iPhone side by side with a D700 and D7k, etc. And when the iPhone is shot on a tripod (I converted my Otterbox with a tripod socket), with PRO HDR, in plenty of light (iPhone dies after dark), it gets phenomenal results. I still shoot the same scene with the DSLR, to have something I can blow up to poster sized prints, and take into Nikon Capture and tweak and push the dynamic range of the NEFs, but the iPhone got it right in the field.
Take this post with a grain of salt, but I am super happy with the iPhone as a camera. I just wish Apple had done for iPad two what they did for iPhone 4.
It doesn't like shooting into the sun, and it doesn't do wildlife, at least not off in the distance, but I got some great shots on a recent trip to Colorado.
https://picasaweb.google.com/110942387986527021652/20110803Colorado (in the field upload to back up the images...lots should be deleted, but a lot are quite good, to me, and on par with the DSLR shot at the same time/place).
I got some even better results with my other cameras, but side-by-side, in tough lighting, the iPhone got a shot in the field. The other cameras I had to take 5 shots, to one day merge together (if ever), etc.
Like, here is a side-by-side comparison. One is straight off the iPhone (well, Pro-HDR in camera processing) the other is post processed (maybe a bit too much but I like it) with about an hours worth of work.
What?? "it is usually the iPhone image that gets all the glory"
Right, with a Sony 1/3.2 sensor. I have to get back to photography 101 basics. Times have really changed.
"paradigm shift"... I wonder this can't even match a 1-year old N8. 75% bigger sensor, Xenon flash.
Are you going to argue with me now that the LED is better than the Xenon and the sensor in 4S better than the N8?
>"it is usually the iPhone image that gets all the glory"
FaceBook, etc.
> "paradigm shift"... I wonder this can't even match a 1-year old N8. 75% bigger sensor, Xenon flash.
The N8 is part of that shift I am talking about as well. Any of the new generation of smartphones with high res cameras are part of this new revolution and excitement about photography. But i suspect the iPhone is in a few more hands.
> and the sensor in 4S better than the N8?[/B][/QUOTE]
I would love to have had the N8. No argument that it is better. Better is not the issue. I have better cameras. They just don't attach to my hip, etc.
FaceBook, etc.
> "paradigm shift"... I wonder this can't even match a 1-year old N8. 75% bigger sensor, Xenon flash.
The N8 is part of that shift I am talking about as well. Any of the new generation of smartphones with high res cameras are part of this new revolution and excitement about photography. But i suspect the iPhone is in a few more hands.
> and the sensor in 4S better than the N8?[/B][/QUOTE]
I would love to have had the N8. No argument that it is better. Better is not the issue. I have better cameras. They just don't attach to my hip, etc.
Second pic is better by farMuch more alive and vibrant.
The 4s is better than my DSLR only because I have my phone on me at all times when I'm outside. That's it though. When I'm going out shooting, I'd rather be using my Nikon.
Granted. I post processed the 2nd image for a local photography contest. It was processed in Nikon Capture NX and has about 100 different control points. I also carefully edited out all signs of human life (cars, houses, telephone poles, etc.). It is a bit over processed by accident even though I was on a color calibrated monitor.
Anyway, point is, the iPhone image is straight off the camera.
And I agree, the iPhone isn't better IQ, but with many things considered, it is my favorite camera right now.
When I go out shooting, I pack a suitcase. And I shoot with a least three cameras. I put a 50-500 on my D3. 18-105 on a D7000 and a 16-35 on a D700. I also pack a 85/1.4 and 105/2.8 Macro, etc. Then I pack a D90 for my wife. And, during the summer, I may also pack a D70IR.
But I shoot first with the iPhone. For one, GeoTag. It helps me capture the location with the exact spot I shot. Two, it gives me something to immediately upload to Facebook and/or Picasa and to email to my parents, etc.
All I know is that the stuff I shoot on the real cameras some times doesn't get looked at or dealt with for a long time.
At least with the iPhone, I post images a LOT sooner than I used to before the iPhone.
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Its like the age old saying "love the one your with".
lokerd said:7even said:Second pic is better by far
The 4s is better than my DSLR only because I have my phone on me at all times when I'm outside. That's it though. When I'm going out shooting, I'd rather be using my Nikon. )
Granted. It post processed the 2nd image for a local photography contest. It was processed in Nikon Capture NX and has about 100 different control points. I also carefully edited out all signs of human life (cars, houses, telephone poles, etc.). It is a bit over processed by accident even though I was on a color calibrated monitor.
Anyway, point is, the iPhone image is straight off the camera.
And I agree, the iPhone isn't better IQ, but with many things considered, it is my favorite camera right now.
When I go out shooting, I pack a suitcase. And I shoot with a least three cameras. I put a 50-500 on my D3. 18-10 on a D7000 and a 16-35 on a D700. I also pack a 85/1.4 and 105/2.8 Macro, etc. Then I pack a D90 for my wife. And, during the summer, I may also pack a D70IR.
But I shoot first with the iPhone. For one, GeoTag. It helps me capture the location with the exact spot I shot. Two, it gives me something to immediately upload to Facebook and/or Picasa and to email to my parents, etc.
All I know is that the stuff I shoot on the real cameras some times doesn't get looked at or dealt with for a long time.
At least with the iPhone, I post images a LOT sooner than I used to before the iPhone.
Its like the age old saying "love the one your with".
I like the first one much better. it's real.
Shown to the average joe, they would not guess that it was from a phone.
I love the 4S camera, also love my Canon T1i. Different purposes for both.
Shown to the average joe, they would not guess that it was from a phone.
I love the 4S camera, also love my Canon T1i. Different purposes for both.