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Imagine if the student actually followed the rules, didn't have the touch out and was paying attention to what they were supposed to be.
 
I'm not usually for sueing but that's a massive invasion of privacy. iPod Touches can store emails and other personal information that the school doesn't have access to.

I say sue. Make an example.

Back at our school 10 years back electronics could be confiscated but you were allowed to remove the game, battery or put a "lock" on it. That's how it should be.

maybe the student should be expelled for not following the rules.
 
maybe the student should be expelled for not following the rules.

Or if you read the OP's post where it said the school has no explicit rule or implicit rule against the iPods, and that other students were using theirs?

You're assuming, regardless of the truth of the OP's post, things that are refuted by what is said in that post, and a little reading rather than siding with "the Man" simply because they're a teacher and thusly an authority figure might serve well.

Students aren't always right, but neither are teachers.
 
Uh... no? You can't just sue people for anything, kiddo.

Oh but you can. Google 'stupid lawsuits' or similar.

But really, who cares? So what if he played with the 'Pod. If nothing, it'll teach your friend not to whip it out in class again. If anything, teachers' powers in the classroom have been eroded away over the years so they are mostly powerless to actually do anything these days. I'd high-five the teacher for taking back some pride for the profession.

I've only been out of school for a couple of years now, but I remember kids getting away with absolutely insane things. The sadness is that these do-gooder asshat types that say children need to be protected and all the rest of that new-age claptrap are actually facilitating these unruly kids by eroding the institution of disciple.

I remember in my first year of High School, a particularly badly-behaved kid pushed a supply teacher too far. After asking him to leave the classroom several times and being back-chatted and ignored the supply teacher grabbed him by the scruff of his neck and literally threw him out of the classroom. We never saw that guy again.

In all seriousness, bring back corporal punishment. Some kids need a sound thrashing. Oh, and before anybody says "it's all well and good now, you're out of school" or something like that: I'd have happily had it whilst I was at school because I know I'd never have been given a beating. Good behaviour doesn't make you a swot, it makes you a well-behaved individual - a not undesirable trait.
 
Technically, schools I think can do whatever they want (i.e. search your stuff, including an iPod, without a warrant) but I would have lost it if my teacher did that, especially since an iPod touch can potentially have private emails and documents kept on it, too. Frankly, it's unprofessional -- I wouldn't sue, but I'd make a complaint.

I feel the same way.


I hope the kid realizes that the teacher was teaching them a really big lesson.

Using the thing in class can be really annoying for the teacher.

If the kids got annoyed with the teacher using it, imagine how the teacher feels when the kids do it. ;) :p

aka, the shoe is on the other foot.

That's not quite the same.

A teacher who was using his own iPod Touch and distracting the class while they were supposed to be doing their schoolwork would be equivalent to a student distracting the class. That's when the "shoe is on the other foot".

I've only been out of school for a couple of years now, but I remember kids getting away with absolutely insane things. The sadness is that these do-gooder asshat types that say children need to be protected and all the rest of that new-age claptrap are actually facilitating these unruly kids by eroding the institution of disciple.

I agree with you, but there's a proper way of punishing the student, and that's to take it away from him and having a parent pick it up (or whatever the procedure is at the particular school). It's not to go through the student's private stuff.
 
I highly doubt there is a school today that doesn't have a policy on cell phones and mp3 players.
 
Sounds like a lesson learned. If you don't want the teacher to take your iPod and listen to it and go through your personal email ... have some respect and don't turn it on while your in the classroom. What's wrong with you kids these days!! :eek: ;)
 
I feel the same way.




That's not quite the same.

A teacher who was using his own iPod Touch and distracting the class while they were supposed to be doing their schoolwork would be equivalent to a student distracting the class. That's when the "shoe is on the other foot".

When I am presenting and there are people sifting thru their emails or blackberry's I simply stop and say when you are ready I will be more than happy to continue. It is extremely distracting.
 
Sounds like a lesson learned. If you don't want the teacher to take your iPod and listen to it and go through your personal email ... have some respect and don't turn it on while your in the classroom. What's wrong with you kids these days!! :eek: ;)

agree
 
I agree with you, but there's a proper way of punishing the student, and that's to take it away from him and having a parent pick it up (or whatever the procedure is at the particular school). It's not to go through the student's private stuff.

I'm not sure. I mean, if you were caught passing notes in class and the teacher read out the note, would you consider it an invasion of privacy? Fundamentally, it's the same, in fact it's worse because they're sharing the information, yet there's not going to be a forum furore over that.

I remember teachers reading out disturbingly graphic notes, of a sexual nature of course - raging hormones and whatnot, yet nobody ever made a fuss about it. The times are changing, kids don't pass notes anymore, they SMS or IM across the class. Same principle, different medium.
 
Uh... no? You can't just sue people for anything, kiddo. There is nothing you can do in this situation. At best, the teacher will be reprimanded.

School policy is school policy.
If the parents had gone to the office that night and demanded the iPod back, and it was not there because the teacher had taken it home, THEN, ohhhhh.... that teacher would have been in HUGE amounts of trouble, but as it stands, as long as the teacher gets it back to the office before the parents come to pick it up, there is absolutely nothing that can prove it was ever taken from school grounds.

Oh, and if it's not against the rules, why was it taken in the first place?


if it's not in the school policy that the teacher can take the iPod from the student then your (OP) friend's parents should defffinitely take a quick trip down to the school.
 
To me this is a classic 'Catch-22' situation ...

In brief, one one side there is the invasion of privacy and on the other the inappropriate use of technology.

There's always two sides to every story and it may be an interesting read as to what their individual perceptions of the facts are, it remains that gen Y should be respected as well as teachers who have to come to terms with an ever changing curriculum ... along with societies values ... ever changing as well ...
 
It was her property. If there was a dispute, she could've been sent to the dean. Taking her stuff home isn't acceptable and would be considered theft in most other cases.
 
Oh but you can. Google 'stupid lawsuits' or similar.

I think a lawsuit over this would rank right there with the tv lawsuit in post 3.

What’s the Most Outlandish Claim You’ve Seen Filed in Court?

That's not quite the same.

A teacher who was using his own iPod Touch and distracting the class while they were supposed to be doing their schoolwork would be equivalent to a student distracting the class. That's when the "shoe is on the other foot"

Student annoys teacher enough to lose an iPod, and teacher annoys student by playing with same iPod.

Seems shoe is on other foot.
 
There seems to be something wrong with this story. As a teacher, I would be appalled to hear that a colleague behaved in this manner.

Did you witness the incident first hand or are you hearing details from the friend?

If the incident is as described, I would not hesitate to raise the issue with administration.

With that said, there are very few schools without policies regarding the use of electronic devices. Because of privacy issues, dealings with drugs and coordination of illicit activities, most schools apply a tight restriction on electronic devices.
 
The student is there to learn, not play with their toys, period

So that gives the right for the teacher to instead?

Sounds like a lesson learned. If you don't want the teacher to take your iPod and listen to it and go through your personal email ... have some respect and don't turn it on while your in the classroom. What's wrong with you kids these days!! :eek: ;)

Don't necessarily agree. This person's school apparently has no rules in place regarding iPods. Even so, if they were finished with their work, what gives?
 
I hope the kid realizes that the teacher was teaching them a really big lesson.

Using the thing in class can be really annoying for the teacher.

If the kids got annoyed with the teacher using it, imagine how the teacher feels when the kids do it. ;) :p

aka, the shoe is on the other foot.

I agree with your sentiment, but this is not how teachers should operate. We don't teach respect for place and property by disrespecting a student's property.
 
So that gives the right for the teacher to instead?



Don't necessarily agree. This person's school apparently has no rules in place regarding iPods. Even so, if they were finished with their work, what gives?

If the student was paying attention and not playing there wouldn;t be any issues, correct.

Please tell me what the root cause of this situation is.
 
Just because the school didn't have rules against it, doesn't mean the teacher doesn't. My school had no rules banning MP3 players, hats and food in the classroom. It was up to the teacher. Some allowed them. Some didn't.

Thats the same for us. Suck it up pal, being a high school student myself, i think you're exaggerating.
 
I agree with your sentiment, but this is not how teachers should operate. We don't teach respect for place and property by disrespecting a student's property.

For some reason, gut feeling as a parent there is somethings abut this story that has stink all over it.
The storie I heard when my son was going through jr and high school were freaking comical.

1. kid falls down the stairs and the teacher felt them up
2. teacher smoking during class
3. teacher surfing facebook and the internet all the time

What really happened.
1. Student was ill and passed out, teacher caught the student from falling flat on their face.
2. Chemistry class, students were in the back of the class gathering the necessary materials after the teacher demonstration.
3. it was an internet technology class.
 
I had my iPod touch taken away once. We were having a "party" and everyone else had their iPod Nanos out. Teacher thought mine was an iPhone. Crazy teacher "accidently" deleted an app off it and read my mail. She also got on MySpace and saw what everyone said about her. Weird things teachers do. Oh, and yeah, lots of other people had cell phones out. Guess she thought that iPhones are too advanced for school use.
 
Well, if the OP is telling the truth then go straight to administration and complain about stuff. The teacher is in no position to even use the device. They only have the power to take it away. if the teacher did take it home, then yes, that is stealing; its not just confiscating anymore.
 
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