Can any spyware survive Earse content

Discussion in 'Jailbreaks and iOS Hacks' started by peterlockee, Apr 22, 2018.

  1. peterlockee macrumors member

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    If iphone is jailbroken, i understand Erase all content and settings may not remove the jailbreak but simply break it, thats what i read in another thread somewhere. My question is if any spyware/malware apps were installed, will Erase all content and settings (from settings), remove every app/spyware on the device, even if its unable to unjailbreak the device
     
  2. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

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    As I recall that feature would just break things and you wouldn't have a working device anyway and would need to restore it basically.
     
  3. peterlockee thread starter macrumors member

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    But in other threads i see people suggesting that jailbreak can survive (somehow) the settings erase?
    If i understand it right, if the device was introduced with the Welcome screen there is no chance anything could have survive and REMAINED acitve?
     
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    Unless you are a high-value government target subject to military/espionage grade malware designed to spy on your every move then the average spyware will not survive an Erase and Install.

    Are you that kind of target?

    If not there is no need to worry about it.

    But if this drives your OCD then backup, do a DFU Restore and Upgrade and then restore from your backup.
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    It breaks the jailbreak, but with the semi-untethered jailbreaks (anything from iOS 9.2 and up) you boot unjailbroken so there's no issues with the device booting. It may be a problem if you intend to jailbreak later on however.

    Jailbreaks from iOS 6 to 9.1 however do bootloop if you do an Erase and Install from the device. Those are all fully-untethered jailbreaks. The reason the bootloop happens is that the firmware is expecting certain Apple apps to be in one partition and they aren't. That's because the jailbreak moved them to a different partition and Erase and Install does not restore them to their default location.

    Only a restore from iTunes or a DFU Restore and Upgrade are the proper methods to restore a jailbroken device on those firmwares.
     
  6. LizKat macrumors 601

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    My goodness. If one is all that concerned then the only solution for attaining peace of mind is this: take the thing out in the yard and wrap it in some paper and plastic and lay waste to it with a maul and bury the wrapped remains two feet down and plant a day lily cutting over it. Their roots are darn near impenetrable once they get going. Then one has only the sin of not recycling the parts properly on one’s conscience. :D
     
  7. EM2013 macrumors 68000

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    Don’t forget the tin foil hat.
     
  8. Chukwe macrumors regular

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    OP, can you edit the title? Is it Earse or Erase?
     
  9. peterlockee thread starter macrumors member

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    Never trust anyone, even the guys on the store. What if they opened the device, infected it and sealed the package again? Its not hard at all. Not talking bout iphones but for any tech in general. So everytime i buy new device, i check if it comes with the update of the time of the device's arrival to the market, they update, then factory erase, and only then sign any infromation. This is the most secure i can think of. Now my device (Iphone X) had softoware issues but i didnt wanted to restore through tunes cause i beileve my PC is hacked so i gave it to the warranty to my carrier from where i bought it (there is nno apple store in my country so the carrier is the only authorized repair and service provider). So they give it back to me updated to 11.3 and i have to wait till 11.4, than erase everything again. I know 11.3 is probably not jailbroken yet but what if the guys in the repair center, although its the most advanced telecom in the county, again authorized by Apple, maybe the technicians and engeneers were corrupt who knows.
    Do you know when 11.4 is coming out?
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    I've always wondered what if in the repair center they changed my device with exact copy that is clone of real iphone, but mimicing exactly the real ios version- fake app store that is google store in disguise, and everything. Than even the firmware update would be fake as well. But what can a man do exept building his own device..
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    eyongren - will this government type of malware survive OTA update and erase all content and settings right after the update ? Does it have to be huge update- like from ios 11 to ios 12, from ios 11.3 to ios 11.4, or something like 11.3 to 11.3.1 or any update will do the trick?
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    By the way today i was with my carrier again i bought motorola device just to use until 11.4 i needed cheap device just for my social media but there was only one left and the package was not completely sealed the woman there said they've opened it for a woman that changed her mind at the last minute. The device came with warranty ofcourse IMEI everything and it wasnt updated since begining on 2017 whcih is when the model came to the market so i updated a couple of updates, erased everything and i can sleep atleast i hope somehow calmly although i fear it was bit unsealed but again if they want they could reseale it easly/ That would be until the update. Its hard to trust an android but system update is very important "get ridder" of bad things so i have to wait.
     
  10. braddick macrumors 68040

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    I'm always impressed when others think of their self importance as being so incredibly high others would risk
    much just to get into their iPhones and tap into their lives. Are other peoples lives so exciting this is an issue?
     
  11. peterlockee thread starter macrumors member

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    braddick its the restrless of the mind that makes some paranoid people to go over any possible risk outthere. No matter how important a person is if he is having this paranoid thoughts you can't remove them simply buy saying "Why would anyone".
     
  12. EM2013 macrumors 68000

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    You are beyond paranoid dude.

    You somehow believe jailbreak = spyware

    There is no jailbreak for 11.3, yet you believe updating to 11.4 will get rid of a jailbreak that doesn’t even exist.

    Then you believe they cloned your device and updating will be a fake firmware. Smh :rolleyes:
     
  13. peterlockee thread starter macrumors member

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    However there is another issue, i cant activate FaceTime ever since they returned my device. Stuck on waiting for Activation?
     
  14. peterlockee thread starter macrumors member

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    Guys, just saw 11.3.1 is released. Does that mean that, if theoretically the device is jailbroken, just theoretically, that will remove the jailbreak, or it has to be major update?
     
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    Honestly…you probably shouldn't own a phone.

    If you're that paranoid then you need to abstain from all technology in your life, find a cabin in the woods and stay off the grid. Anything is possible in tech, but the issue is probability.

    Living a life thinking everyone is out to get you is not healthy.
     

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