Can anyone identify this snake??

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  1. lchad2 macrumors newbie

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    Hopefully some one can help me identify this snake. I was cleaning my pool filter and it darted from under the pump motor (where I assume it was keeping warm), over my BARE foot and out into the grass. I was able to distract it while my wife ran for the camera. At first I thought this may be a copperhead but after doing a little research on the internet I think this may be a baby cotton mouth, aka water moccasin due to the bright yellow tip of the tail. I am a little concerned because I have a small child and this is in a frequent play area. I have almost no knowledge of snakes and now am eager to learn more. I live in northwest Florida where snakes are common but this is my first encounter with a venemous snake if it is indeed a cotton mouth. please note: the snake was not harmed and successffully relocated. I have heard that moccasins live in dens. If this is true, can I expect more? Let me know what you think!!

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  2. hmmfe macrumors regular

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    Looks like a western cottonmouth to me. You say you live in NW Florida? Typically this sub-species is common to the Gulf states (Southern Alabama to Texas). Hard to tell though - could just be the lighting. The Florida cottonmouth is a bit thicker and darker colored from my memory. I grew up in Southern Florida and I was more familiar with. Either way, it is a cottonmouth - venomous but not really deadly (would still not want to have it around my house though).
     
  3. Chundles macrumors G4

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    Looks like a live snake.

    That needs to be fixed... with a shovel.
     
  4. AlexH macrumors 68000

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    Amen!
     
  5. sangosimo Guest

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    if you have snakes you may have a vermin problem. I would check for mice and other rodents.
     
  6. TuffLuffJimmy macrumors G3

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    Without spiders we would be over ridden with insects.
    Without snakes we would be over ridden with mice.

    And snakes are super neat and interesting, so leave it alone.

    And I agree with the poster about it being a cotton mouth. Don't touch it! It's venomous. And even if it isn't a cotton mouth it's obviously venomous.

    EDIT: I just clicked on the thumbnails. You killed it. What the hell, man!?
     
  7. lchad2 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Join Date: Sep 2008 if you have snakes you may have a vermin problem. I would check for mice and other rodents.



    No vermin problem. Like I said, This snake came from under the pool pump where it is warm. I live in northwes Florida and it has been getting down to the mid 50s at night. I think it just found a warm place and was hanging out.
     
  8. Balty macrumors 6502

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    Where's Steve Irwin when you need him... :D
     
  9. TuffLuffJimmy macrumors G3

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    :eek::eek:
    too soon!
    :(:(
     
  10. lchad2 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Once we started taking pics, it started to to open its mouth and hiss a bit. It was a little cold so it was moving slow. Trust me... if I would have killed that snake, it would be missing a head. The snake was swepped into a bucket and taken to a swap a few miles away by my greenpeace neighbor from nextdoor.
     
  11. TuffLuffJimmy macrumors G3

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    Oh sorry. It looks dead in the second picture. I'm glad you relocated it. Now you're safe and it's safe.
     
  12. Chundles macrumors G4

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    Birds and lizards could take the place of satan-spawn spiders and nasty snakes.

    Kill 'em all!!!!

    We have a saying in Australia (where the men are men and the snakes will kill 80 of those men with one dose of venom):

    "A snake's only protected if it gets away."
     
  13. Balty macrumors 6502

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    Basically.... :D

    But do we really need to Kill 'em all!!!! ?
     
  14. bassproguy07 macrumors 6502a

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    arent cottonmouths a little darker, i mean a lot darker?? kind of looks like a copperhead. Most cottonmouths I've seen are dark dark in color, usually black or dark brown. helps them blend in in the water/mud etc. its mouth is also white white, that ones mouth looks pink. edit:after further review of the pics as well as the op's text, i will say its a copperhead. most copperheads have a bright yellow tail when young, to lure frogs and such. correct me if cottonmouths have this too but I am only sure of copperheads. as for those who hate on snakes, EFF all of yall, I used to petsit a ball python and they are the most gental cratures ever, so curious as well. as soon as i get my own house I will have a pet snake of some sort!
     
  15. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    I agree, it will ALWAYS be too soon :(

    RIP mate, you were an amazing man
     
  16. lchad2 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I concur... He actually came out here to northwest Florida and did a show about the alligator, (the episode where he went to Eglin AFB and got to ride in the F-16) I was fortunate enough to listen to him speak. Super nice guy!!
     
  17. cantthinkofone macrumors 65816

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    I agree, looks like a cottonmouth to me. STAY AWAY!!! Call animal control.

    Do you have kids?
     
  18. lchad2 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I do, a 4yr old, and like I said, this is in a play area, right next to the pool. I have heard that these live in dens. Do you think I can expect more??
     

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