Snow Leopard Bug Responsible for Loss of User Data Gaining Notice
Seriously, how short a memory do some of you have?
Show me one Lion bug that's as bad as someone's home directory being wiped by the OS.
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Snow Leopard Bug Responsible for Loss of User Data Gaining Notice
Seriously, how short a memory do some of you have?
Show me one Lion bug that's as bad as someone's home directory being wiped by the OS.
So basically they pulled what every major software release is. I really wish people would stop comparing Lion to Vista. It's an exceptionally poor comparison. Even Vista wasn't as bad as reputation makes it, but it got so much bad PR it never mattered.
It's impossible to test a product enough before release so that when over a million copies are installed there aren't any major issues. If you actually managed to test a product to that extent, you would have to somehow make enough money off all that testing, which would end up with a higher price.
So, you could pay $600 for an SSD that would give you the same speed improvement that switching to Lion (for $39) gives you. That's your logical argument? You could install an SSD on a computer using any operating system and you would see a speed improvement. How on earth does that negate the fact that Lion is running faster for someone? Please explain, because I honestly don't get it.
And what you call "collateral damage" other people actually call new features. Go ahead, call me a "Jobsian," and get it out of your system. Feel better?
Wrong-o I didn't install a SSD. My hard drive is the same old 5400RPM drive. I did a straight upgrade.
As someone already pointed out. SL would erase the User folder if you use the Guest Account.
This isn't true, newer machines could not run an older OS. For example the Mac Classic could not run System 6.05, it required System 6.07 (or 6.08). Same with the PPCs, depending when they came out vs what the current version os was out, it would be able to run it. If it was close to the current OS it normally was like a .x release. The PPC could not run System 7.0 because, 1 there wasn't a installer for them in 7.0, and they had new ROMs. If I remember correctly the first PPC needed System 7.1 (Or was it System 7.5 I forget). (I've been using Macs since my SE/30 days.)
The point is, on the Mac newer machines have never been able to run an older OS on them. Back in the day as they say if you did manage to get an older OS installed. At boot up you would get 'This System Software Does not run on this machine.'.
Hugh
Yeah, but raw speed is negligable when you can't use the OS!
Actually, you've never tried using Windows. 7 was major-bug-free out of the gate, and millions of people use it, and I'm pretty sure the biggest problem with Vista was iPod compatability.
Quite honestly, it's pathetic that all major OS X releases in recent memory have had such horrible bugs. Leopard had the BSOD, SL had the guest account bug, and Lion is just a train wreck of little bugs that annoy you until you throw your computer at a wall.
I happen to like Lion quite a bit.
I like the trackpad gestures, I like the full-screen apps, I like AirDrop, I like Mission Control, I like Versions and that apps will re-open to the same point when relaunching, I like FileVault 2's whole-disk encryption (used on my MacBook Air), and while not yet really implemented, I suspect that Lion's push notifications and Find My Mac features will be useful.
I've seen a few minor bugs (menu bar not being positioned properly when switching between full screen and non-full screen apps), but no show stoppers and no crashes/instability.
I like the trackpad gestures, I like the full-screen apps, I like AirDrop, I like Mission Control, I like Versions and that apps will re-open to the same point when relaunching, I like FileVault 2's whole-disk encryption (used on my MacBook Air), and while not yet really implemented, I suspect that Lion's push notifications and Find My Mac features will be useful.
I've seen a few minor bugs (menu bar not being positioned properly when switching between full screen and non-full screen apps), but no show stoppers and no crashes/instability.
How do you know what I have and haven't tried? Hmmm?
It's impressive that W7 was major bug free at the .0 revision. A search on Google for "Windows 7 major bugs" turns up plenty of results, though. Also, I worked for 3 years at the HelpDesk at my college, servicing primarily Windows laptops. So, I think I've tried using Windows
The biggest problem with Vista is that it required computers that were so new that most people were left unable to upgrade. However, many users tried to anyway, and ended up with a computer underpowered for the OS. Basically, when Vista came out, if your computer was more than 1 year old, there was a good chance it wouldn't be able to run it properly. When W7 came out, 5 year old computers could run it fine.
Dude, I've run System 7 on my 2010 MacBook Pro. If you know what you're doing, you can run ANYTHING you want from the System era on anything you choose.
If you want to go back in time, the Macintosh Performa 550 that my mother purchased for a whopping $2,000 came loaded with a System 7 build. I rolled it back to 6.07 for compatibility with certain games. It CAN be done, regardless of the fact that it was "claimed" to support a minimum 7.1 build.
Though emulation you have System 7.0 running on your 2010 MacBook. For that matter you could get Snow Leopard Server and VM it to run those APPS that do not work or work right in Loin, on your Air.
That I would have like to see since the LC 550 (Performa 550) used a System Enabler. System 6.07 wouldn't know how to use an Enabler, because it's before it's time.
With futzing, yes. In my case I used emulation, but that's not the point, because...
Unforunately Apple will not allow Snow Leopard CLIENT to run in a VM. For that matter, it makes no sense that they will allow you to run Windows 7 on the hardware directly (Bootcamp) yet you cannot run Snow Leopard under the same condition on the new Air. Otherwise I would do that and then delete the Lion partition entirely. Yes, it's that bad.
Snow Leopard Server is a convoluted mess. I know - our VM server at work is a Mac Mini Server and it's about the most metrosexual OS I've ever used. Sometimes Remote Desktop works, sometimes it doesn't, Can send commands via Remote Desktop but can't bring up the console, slow as dirt when nothing is running, yet running VMs are lightning fast, VNC half works, etc.
Given I was around 11 at the time, I have no idea. All I know is it worked. I remember that clearly because I borrowed the floppies from some nerd at school who was all atwitter about the fact that System 7 came out. I told him my game wouldn't work on System 7 - I want to say it was Kobayashi Alternative, though I might be mistaken - and he lent me the discs and told me to have at it. Next thing I know it was booting up on its own.
If you could state which features about Lion you do not like, I am sure someone could point you to a way to revert them back to the way SL worked. But if you just want to whine some more, go back to Microsoft. Apple doesn't want you, and frankly, neither do we.
Care to share how one would get System 7 running natively on a current Intel Mac through mere "futzing"? You're looking at getting a system to run on hardware that simply didn't exist at the time. I can see how someone could basically rewrite most of System 7 to get it to run natively, but that's a little outside the realm of "futzing"...
And running System 7 via an emulator doesn't count, at least not for the point you were making. You responded to a post saying that Macs have never been able to run a version of Mac OS/OS X older than it is. Getting it to run via emulation will allow you to open apps you might not otherwise be able to, but the Mac isn't running it in the sense being talked about here, it's emulating it. Big difference.