By that I mean can do they a service or a product that works or is popular. Here's what I'm thinking, apple's foray into group or social products have failed by and large. MobileMe, Ping, Facetime. I read an article a while back (I forget from whom) where they postulated that Apple's secretive corporate culture is counter intuitive to open social type apps/services. They're really great at making products and services aimed at a single user, but when they tried to provide a social networking type service, a la Ping, or something like MobileMe its not really all that successful. I say this now because of the impending unveiling of iCloud and/or MobileMe being reset again. Opinions on apple's ability to do social/group type products?