We use wireless at home for laptops, phone, iPad etc but have a wired network for bandwidth hungry stuff like ATV, NAS etc. I use powerline Ethernet for that though rather than run cable everywhere. It works well.
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Can Ethernet live on without RJ-45
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We use wireless at home for laptops, phone, iPad etc but have a wired network for bandwidth hungry stuff like ATV, NAS etc. I use powerline Ethernet for that though rather than run cable everywhere. It works well.
Jamming wifi, cellular or GPS in the US highly frowned upon by the FCC. Not sure if that company was in the US though (judging by your location not
) The only thing you can legally do is make an office a pseudo faraday cage by using metals, or metallic substances to shield RF, and conduct security scans ensuring you have no unauthorized devices on site.
I don't see why. Not everyone feels the need to make things thin at all costs, no matter what they lose.
The standard includes the cable and connector. Technically the standard is 10B-T or 100B-TX or 1000B-T.
The coax connector based network that you are referring too was very different, and part of the standard 10B2. 10B2 networks are linear shaped, without a hub.
Oh I could talk old network support stories in an separate thread. Stared IT in the mid 90s, when some of this still was in heavy use.
Don't forget the bigger brother 10B5, when you bring up 10B2 (aka Thick net and Thin net). I have supported such networks in the past. Despite them being quite legacy by the time I got into IT. Regardless, they are both part of the Ethernet standard, though in a Bus topology. It won out over Token ring, and other even crazier network designs.
For quite some time governments and their related contractors relied heavily on thick and thin net Ethernet networks. Personally I am glad Twisted pair was deemed cheaper, and easier. Much cleaner to make a series of cables using RJ45 connectors, than Thin Net. I could never crimp those dang things well enough.
but things will undoubtedly get thinner, it's only a matter of time, if RJ-45 is shrunken or replaced then no one has to loose anything, we can still have wired gigabit/10g/100g and be able to fit the plug on the thinner laptops of the future
and by that time ethernet will be 10 Gigs....... O WAIT!! 10gig ethernet does exists! like the other person said, just not cheap yet. and after 10 gig ethernet, there is going to be some super fast changes. just look at the server/corporate market. There is much faster than 10Gig, not in ethernet form yet, but faster.
wireless is convenient, but I often use ethernet, when wireless is slow at school, or to transfer files. Ethernet is still big. how many people complain about slow wireless? or about wireless not working? poor range, ethernet doesn't really have those problems.
Jamming wifi, cellular or GPS in the US highly frowned upon by the FCC. Not sure if that company was in the US though (judging by your location not
The only thing you can legally do is make an office a pseudo faraday cage by using metals, or metallic substances to shield RF, and conduct security scans ensuring you have no unauthorized devices on site.
Many companies in the US go around with scanners looking for rogue base stations installed on their networks.
Can Ethernet live on without RJ-45 ..
Hmmmm..
No.. I suspect The World will collapse upon itself..
Maybe..
** The Great Thing about 'Industry STANDARDS' is that there are SO many to choose from!! **
Hmmmm..
No.. I suspect The World will collapse upon itself..
Maybe..
** The Great Thing about 'Industry STANDARDS' is that there are SO many to choose from!! **
Ethernet is a standard that will never ever ever go away ever. Apple can do whatever they want Ethernet will never ever go away ever. You can't make it smaller, you can't change it to any way you want, it's a world standard.
even that is flawed, I have wifi at home, but when they replaced a transformer across the street after a big storm I had so much interference we had to spend over $2,000 on a new access point (a big 6 antenna Cisco thing) and now it works fairly well, but signal is sketchy up stairs so I still have ethernet to major points in the house, it's the perfect example of why wireless will never be the be-all and end-all[/QUOTE]
I don't know how strong the encryption is with WPA2 (I understand it is pretty sting for todays standards) but so was WEP when it came out, and now that can be broken in a matter of minutes.
Wireless is not as dependable as Ethernet, and as wireless evolves, it will require a faster backbone to get the Ethernet frames to the access point, requiring fiber or faster copper, perhaps utilizing 10Gbps in the near future. I think that copper will always be a step ahead of wireless, but wireless is not far behind with some emerging technologies. I always want (and need) wired to fall back on with my job.
It's understandable that droves of Apple users don't understand business & the predominance of Ethernet cabling. My company is a fortune 500 unit with thousands of engineers & others (all over the globe) that live on Ethernet at work.
Other than ultra thin new Macs, all our laptops have Ethernet ports. If they didn't, the company wouldn't buy them, it's as simple as that. Ethernet connectors as we've known them for years are not going anywhere in the near future.
Other than ultra thin new Macs, all our laptops have Ethernet ports. If they didn't, the company wouldn't buy them, it's as simple as that. Ethernet connectors as we've known them for years are not going anywhere in the near future.
Oh god i'm having flash backs....
white green, green, white orange, blue, white blue, orange, white brown, brown!
make it stop!
white green, green, white orange, blue, white blue, orange, white brown, brown!
make it stop!
I don't see physical ethernet going anywhere for a looooooong time. There are certain enterprise orgs that simply can't afford to be broadcasting data wirelessly. The military is a key example. Its physical appearance might change and even the media (cat5 vs optical) but they can't be intercepted without attaching directly to the line, thus they are secure. Sure you can encrypt wireless data...but someone with enough resources can get into the data eventually.
I understand the necessity of Ethernet to go on BUT with many laptops getting too thing to fit an RJ-45 jack I believe Ethernet needs to evolve to a smaller connector or we won't be able to keep wired connections built into our laptops (plenty of other companies will make laptops too thin for RJ-45, some already are)