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akm3

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I want to do a video where I overlay data (like telemetry, SMPTE time code (running), real time heart beat monitoring, etc) over other footage. Kind of like the 'terminator view' that Arnold sees in the Terminator movies, but without the red over cast.

I'm pretty sure iMovie can't do this (expect MAYBE with a static image) but can Final Cut?

What would I use to create the second transparant video stream with all my numbers/data on it?

I hope I'm being clear what I'm trying to do.

Here is a screen shot of 'terminator vision'
http://imaginarycinema.com/images/cameron/term21.jpg

So I want a way to add the white text to an existing video, and the data showing in the white text to change and display what I wish during the video.

Thanks in advance, I don't feel I've explained this well
 

Flynnstone

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Pretty sure you can do it will FCE and FCP.
I wonder if you could use Quartz composer to generate the text overlay?
(just thinking out loud)
 

Gator24765

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Not positive if you can do this right in FCP but you could just create a graphic at the same resolution with a transparent background.
 

psycodriver

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To do that you should use After Effects. You just use final cut. To cut the footage, then import to after effects.
 

akm3

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To do that you should use After Effects. You just use final cut. To cut the footage, then import to after effects.

I don't own any of the adobe suite but that's what I was afraid of. I cam swing FCE but more than that and I'm out of luck! Doh!
 

MattSepeta

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Yes.

Yes, I'm almost positive you can do this in FCE. I know that you can do it in FCP, but I have never personally used FCE.

What, exactly, do you want to overlay? Do you want to overlay video with running numbers, or something?

Maybe you are thinking too hard.. It sounds like the text generator in FC will work just fine....(If I understand what you want to do).
 

akm3

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Yes, I'm almost positive you can do this in FCE. I know that you can do it in FCP, but I have never personally used FCE.

What, exactly, do you want to overlay? Do you want to overlay video with running numbers, or something?

Maybe you are thinking too hard.. It sounds like the text generator in FC will work just fine....(If I understand what you want to do).

Maybe, I guess it is kind of like subtitles, but I want some more 'active' titles with numbers that are continuously changing and what not, and be able to position them precisely on the screen.
 

Flynnstone

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I have FCE. Haven't used it in a while.
Perhaps Text with keyframe moves. Not descibing that very well.

And look into Quartz Composer. Its free & fun and you could create a video of the funky text or what ever & overlay it in FCE. Cost is FCE and time and a few brain cells.
 

MattSepeta

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Generators

I am pretty sure that you can buy fairly inexpensive number-generating plug-ins for Final Cut. Maybe do a few google searches for it
 

akm3

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I have FCE. Haven't used it in a while.
Perhaps Text with keyframe moves. Not descibing that very well.

And look into Quartz Composer. Its free & fun and you could create a video of the funky text or what ever & overlay it in FCE. Cost is FCE and time and a few brain cells.

I'm investigating Quartz Composer. It is obviously a ridiculously powerful thing that no one knows about :) Going to dig in a little
 

martinX

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Here's a plugin that can do it: Decimal Counter.

You'll need the FX Factory app as well, but once you have FX Factory (free) and Decimal Counter ($35), it will show up as a plugin in FCE.

If it were me and I was feeling lazy (nothing new there...) I'd create one sequence of Terminator vision consisting of ever shifting numbers, a red overlay of 50% opacity (or whatever works) and the little focussing doohikky thing in the middle and just keep dropping the same one over the top of your Terminator footage each time. No-one will noticethat it's exactly the same - who is going to be paying attention to little numbers in the corner of the screen?
 

tomllama

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What you want to do is similar to what folk do to overlay data onto video from a race car (add speed, track position, throttle position, brakes, etc). You could probably do a simple adaptation of the input data to accomplish your goal. Take a look at http://www.trackvision.net/
 

akm3

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So...I just bought Final Cut Pro for $630 instead.

I feel like my three year old would feel if I gave her a ferrari in parts and said 'you can have this car if you assemble it!'

Thanks everyone for the help in this thread. I'm still kicking around in Quartz Composer but I feel pretty lost.
 

bumzo1

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Yes you can add overlays in Final cut. It uses a stacking timeline so basically what ever is on top of the timeline is in its respected position in the video.
 

Richardthe4th

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If you have bought FCS (the suite) you can use motion. It can make/compose everything you want, but there is a learning curve. It is more or less the AE from apple.

You can make an extra video track with all the effects and in FCP set the opacity to the desired level. Or try to start with live type, more easy and can also have numbers running. Perhaps more video track overlays with the different effects and render in FCP to get you going quickly

Good luck
 

sigamy

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