Phones Can I interest you in a shorter S9 with a notch?

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by Ralfi, Mar 9, 2018.

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Would you have approved of a notch on the S9?

  1. Yes

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    10.3%
  2. No

    26 vote(s)
    89.7%
  1. Ralfi, Mar 9, 2018
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    Ralfi macrumors 68030

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    Curious, if it meant the S9 & S9+ would be a shorter form factor & therefore easier to hold & more one-hand-friendly + increased pocketabilty (new word!?), would you be ok with a notch that blended the camera/sensors/status bar + zero bezel on the bottom?

    Try to be balanced & not think about it as copying a certain rival phone manufacturer, & instead as utilising that glorious infinity display to its maximum not only left to right, but also top to bottom.
     
  2. Mildredop macrumors 68020

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    Pocketability is absolutely not a new word.
     
  3. Oohara macrumors 68030

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    Size/pocketability is not a concern for me at all. I'd much rather have an unwieldy phone with a symmetrical screen than a slightly smaller phone with a big ol' dent disturbing what I'm looking at.
     
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  5. givemeanapple macrumors Demi-God

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    No to the notch, yes to the biggest screen possible on the smallest phone body.
     
  6. GrumpyMom macrumors 604

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    I had to calm myself down and read and read again what you are asking and give it my best effort to be open minded and not reactionary. I’m really angry about this notch bandwagon.

    But...IF and only IF the operating system would keep the ears used for user selectable status information and black it out in a faux bezel when in photo apps or videos, especially in landscape mode, okay, I could see the utility in it.

    Otherwise, I consider it an unwelcome intrusion into my field of view that would mean Samsung’s current solution of a modest bezel is preferable.

    I really do prefer small bezels if they are used for something enjoyable like front firing stereo speakers.
     
  7. DiamonDecoden macrumors 6502

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    LOL I am very opposed to the notch. I do not care about the pocket-ability as the phone is always in my hand or in my purse? I don't think anyone really like the notch, they just got used to it and have to settle with it because it is on the newest phone.
     
  8. hallux macrumors 68030

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    So, effectively what LG with the second display on the V10 but with a notch cut in it?
     
  9. Vegastouch macrumors 603

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    Had Samsung done that i probably would have got a Motorola Z2 instead of the S9. Or posssibly an LG.
     
  10. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 604

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    Yup, a notch would be a good reason I would quit using Samsung flagships.
     
  11. GrumpyMom, Mar 9, 2018
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    Sorry iPad is acting up and I can’t edit and everything froze so my only option was to submit my post of “I”. :rolleyes:

    My answer was going to be that I don’t remember what the V 10 second display consisted of so I can’t really answer for sure.

    I was thinking of having the ears always display battery icon and some other pertinent info selected by the user. But have it always be on a black background so it looks like a part of the bezel. Yet since it would be on the space a bezel would normally occupy, this info doesn’t need a separate row to itself from the live display area. That is a good use of the ears that does not visually detract from the actual usable display where the action will take place.

    The way Apple has it now the notch is colored as part of the display of the app background so it stands out. It’s intruding visually into the app or background, even if not functionally.

    This isn’t really my idea or my observation. Credit goes to other forum members who participated in a much earlier discussion of how the notch should ideally work and its presence could be mitigated. Apple obviously did not go that route.
     
  12. Ralfi thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Yeah Apps with light coloured backgrounds will look like that.

    Many Apps with a black background (Spotify) appear to have a straight (traditional) top bezel, hiding the notch.

    & with the proposed 'dark mode' for IOS, more Apps may be able to have their backgrounds switched to black, so the notch becomes even less conspicuous.

    Speaking of dark mode, don't the Samsung's have it? & if you were able to alter the colour scheme to black & preferred that over the light scheme, would that maybe bring you around to a notch on the Galaxy, since it'll hide the notch in more Apps?
     
  13. Vegastouch, Mar 9, 2018
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    Vegastouch macrumors 603

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    No, i have a darker background but my notifications ill wouldn't all fit if i had a notch. i dont need edge to edge screen. The small bezel is fine with me.
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  14. GrumpyMom macrumors 604

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    If I can’t see it, sure, there’s no longer a logical basis for objecting to a notch solely on the basis of aesthetics.

    What I would object to is the removal of a fingerprint scanner and for face and iris scanning to become the sole means of biometric authentication, thus necessitating a notchlike accommodation for the light emitters, regardless of whether such an apparatus can be hidden from view.

    Opthamologists have not yet giving their unreserved blessings on the safety of these beams of light going into our eyes several times a day. There simply is insufficient data. I think Apple’s overthrow of fingerprint scanning and consignment of it to the scrap heap is premature until we know with absolute certainty that all implementations of laser light projectors by all manufacturers are safe. Apple is pretty good about exercising an abundance of caution in what they implement, but they aren’t infallible. Their pwm OLED displays have induced severe migraines among forum members. A couple of people ended up in the ER.

    Is there an established testing and certification methodology for this particular use case of lasers in place? I know there’s a rating classification system for commercial laser use that is being streched to apply here, but is that a wise application of existing standards? The LEDs are technically lasers, according to what I’ve read. I know they’re not the same type of lasers that make the dots my cats chase. But they are a class of laser.

    My personal experience with the light emitted by the Samsung iris scanner has been extremely painful and concerning. I’m not alone in that.

    Sorry for the long digression into laser safety, but the reason for the digression is that the notch is required to House this technology. It is the only biometric authentication system Apple currently endorses. They have declared it “the future”, thus simultaneously relegating safe and proven alternatives to the past. Many of their most ardent fans on this forum have told the rest of us holdouts we are holding onto the the past and doing so is futile.

    We have seen from the abrupt and unnecessary removal of the headphone jack by Android manufacturers, even by Google, that when Apple makes such declarations, the rest of the industry follows, no matter how painful and inconvenient the results are for customers.

    It’s very hard not to resent the fact that my entire experience of the smartphone can be so thoroughly dictated by one single company that lately is in the habit of making asinine decisions and proclaiming them “the future” and implementing them prematurely and awkwardly. I find this often makes the present very annoying. Cough cough...dongles...
     
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    My Samsung Iris Recognition turned out not to be causing headaches and dizziness, which is 4 seconds and less than 10x a day - it was the ‘keep screen on’ that seems to do something s8milar. I stopped using Iris feature for over a month and just recently enabled it.
     
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    Ewww. The iPhone X can keep the notch to themselves please. Don't spread it. LOL
     

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