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Can I sell 2nd chip of 8-core now and buy back later?
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This thread is hilarious.
Seriously, OP, a computer is not a car. Nor is it a guitar, a violin, or other finely-made wooden instrument. It will not accumulate in value, it will not increase in usability, or become anything beyond a burden to your offspring. This is a Bad Idea.
I was using sarcarsm in that post...
I never noticed. I keep waiting for some of these new smart cars to get a bluescreen
I know; I was agreeing with you.
Ear Whiskers said:
It's that destructive desire to have the Newest Apple Thing. And it's something folks have to overcome now (before it ruins lives and relationships) or later (after bankruptcy and divorce), because very few of us have the resources to keep up with a multibillion dollar corporation.
Let's get this thread back on track
Ok, to clarify... yes, I was certainly exaggerating about 15 years. I will probably buy another nice computer every 6-7 years. When my kid is using this computer he will be 5-7 years old. By the time he gets old enough to care about having recent software, want to play games, etc, I expect I will be getting a third computer, and will be able to give him a computer recent enough to do what he wants to do.
The 15 years thing was not the point of my post, and I'm sorry I ever brought it up. I was reacting against the person who thought that I should keep both processors together in the interest of maintaining resale value for selling it again 3-5 years down the road. My point was just that I won't be reselling my computer.
Removing the 2nd processor will not be hard for me. I am an A+ certified computer technician. I do know that I will want the power of 8 cores - for programming, for HD video editing, for music production, for CS3, etc, and not 5 years down the road. I will probably bring my computer back up to 8 cores two years from now. I just don't need it this year. I am also a graduate student, so I purchased a $99 student membership with Apple Developer Connection, which authorizes me buy my Mac Pro at significantly reduced developer prices, which will save me a lot of money as well. I won't be purchasing an extended warranty because I am aware that I will be voiding it.
In fact, once I sell the second processor and get about $800 back, I will have only spent $1762 to get my quad-core Mac Pro with an extra heat sink, 8800gt graphics, and iWork. I don't think that I am crazy or that I should really be spending at the minimum $1300 to get an iMac that will be much less powerful.
Ok, to clarify... yes, I was certainly exaggerating about 15 years. I will probably buy another nice computer every 6-7 years. When my kid is using this computer he will be 5-7 years old. By the time he gets old enough to care about having recent software, want to play games, etc, I expect I will be getting a third computer, and will be able to give him a computer recent enough to do what he wants to do.
The 15 years thing was not the point of my post, and I'm sorry I ever brought it up. I was reacting against the person who thought that I should keep both processors together in the interest of maintaining resale value for selling it again 3-5 years down the road. My point was just that I won't be reselling my computer.
Removing the 2nd processor will not be hard for me. I am an A+ certified computer technician. I do know that I will want the power of 8 cores - for programming, for HD video editing, for music production, for CS3, etc, and not 5 years down the road. I will probably bring my computer back up to 8 cores two years from now. I just don't need it this year. I am also a graduate student, so I purchased a $99 student membership with Apple Developer Connection, which authorizes me buy my Mac Pro at significantly reduced developer prices, which will save me a lot of money as well. I won't be purchasing an extended warranty because I am aware that I will be voiding it.
In fact, once I sell the second processor and get about $800 back, I will have only spent $1762 to get my quad-core Mac Pro with an extra heat sink, 8800gt graphics, and iWork. I don't think that I am crazy or that I should really be spending at the minimum $1300 to get an iMac that will be much less powerful.
Comparing a Quadra to an 8-core Mac Pro fifteen years from now isn't comparable. The top-of-the-line three years after fifteen years ago (or ummm... 12 years ago) would be the 9500. 9600 if you pushed a bit further- not that it matters. Anyway, people still use those. They're heavily upgraded, true, but that's the point... you can upgrade the Mac Pro. You can't upgrade (heavily) anything else. 32 GB RAM will be enough in 10 years. I don't know about 15... but in 10, I can pretty much guarantee you it will. Oh, you won't be running high-end apps like Aperture is in today's turns, I'm not going to pretend you will. But it'll run.
We bought a Performa 6205CD when I was... I guess nine. It was great. Three years later it was a piece of garbage, and I couldn't wait to get rid of it. We then got a Beige G3/300. 64MB RAM, 2MB video card.. 6GB HDD.. super fast! I still use it at home when I'm back from college. Granted, it's also upgraded (maxed at 768MB RAM, three HDDs totaling 260 GB, a Radeon 32MB PCI video card, USB and an ATA/66 PCI card), but again, that's the point. It's only running a 500 MHz G4, but if I really wanted to, I could upgrade to a 1 GHz G4 (or hey, lol, a 1 GHz G3 and OC the bus to 83 MHz!
)It's a great machine and it still runs. I do have my trusty 1.6 GHz Pentium M PC laptop next to it though (thinking of getting a new one).... since browsing can be kinda slow.
Anyway, a Mac Pro is more futureproof than this Beige, which was way more futureproof than that Quadra.
-blinks- A Mac Classic is 28 years old. It was basically a cheaper rerelease of the original Macintosh, which is 32 years old. Max 4MB RAM ;x 8-bit Motorola 68000 CPU :x We have one in the basement. Kinda neat actually, you can boot from ROM by holding cmd+optn+x+o. Yeahhhh the screen was buggy ever since three years after getting it.
Definitely not.. plenty of people give away Beiges to their kids now.
Nah. I have Tiger on my machine and didn't use DVDs. I used CDs. Of course, those are burned. But hey, that's how it goes. Mediums are pretty much obsolete as it is now... all you need is a cable modem. We've had one since 2000... most people have them now. When you download at over 15Mbps, CD-ROMs and DVDs seem quaint.
Hehehehehe you have a point there. Though we'll always need large screens. Our brains and eyes don't change with the times
Yeah, but H.264 is an exception... it uses a ton of processing power, even by modern standards.. check how much it uses on a Core 2 Duo. It's significant, particularly given normal avi takes up less than 10-15%. iTunes isn't that much more complex.. just supports a few more things. It's kind of a clunky interface anyway, actually. I can run H.264 very smoothly at 640x480 just fine in DivX player on my PC, but it runs like crap at 320x240 via iTunes. That's a software issue, not a hardware one.
Hm? I'm running Tiger 10.4.9 on a ten year old Mac.. works great. iTunes 7.6... iPhoto 5... Photoshop CS2... pretty much everything I want. What's the problem? =]
Lol, that was fun.
Anyway, I'm not sure there'd be much market for one. I don't imagine there'd be one at all from Mac users... as they'd just order what they want... and from PC users... well, they don't tend to ebay new things they can get for cheaper- particularly new parts. Maybe you should stick with the Uni-2.8? It's not worth risking murder if you can't pawn off the other CPU. Unless you know for sure you're capable of calming your wife down and getting her to put down that knife, that is =]
Do not do it. I remember something in the service manual that says you are not supposed to remove the heatsink from the processor, or both from the logic board for more than 15 minutes.
That applies specifically to the 3.2 as the Krytox thermal compound degrades when exposed to air for excess time. 2.8/3.0 use standard thermal compound.
Two Core
I was thinking of buying a quad core machine and removing two of the cores to sell on E-Bay. What do you guys think?
I was thinking of buying a quad core machine and removing two of the cores to sell on E-Bay. What do you guys think?
EPIC LULZ!
Let's see what I used 15 years ago... that's 1993... I think a Tandy. I didn't get my first internet-capable computer until circa 1995, and that was an ancient 150 MHz Pentium Compaq, accessing the internet via a 28 kbps modem. Boy, how times has changed.
And a quick Google reveals that a computer slightly superior to the one I had in 1995 goes for $2.50 on eBay.
Inherit to your kid in 15 years, hahaha priceless.
-blinks- 28 years? That would be... 1980. Macs don't even exist then, leave alone rereleases. You failed. In an epic way.
I hope you're being sarcastic. If not, a quad core CPU is a single CPU unit. You can't remove cores from a quad-core CPU.
That would only work if you bought some more cores to replace it within 15 years...
I still dont understand how much the original poster of this thread might save doign all this. $300 maybe? Just doesnt make sense. Say you cant afford it? If the $300 is going to break the bank that badly, then I say dont go out for a couple months and make lunch at home and take it to work. Sell off other old things lying around. The idea of buying an 8 core system, selling one of the four core cpus and then buying it back later is kind of retarded.
Dude... dude...
You have to think different.
And with an axe or possibly a hacksaw maybe perhaps?
Heh. If you're going to point out my five-in-the-morning-half-awake math skills (the only thing you seem to have talked about in my post), then fine. Your poor social skills, lack of tact, and weak, presumably fully-awake grammar skills are as open to criticism well. If we're talking 1980, that's past tense, children. Macs didn't exist back then. You're' right. It's 18 years old, and the architecture is 24 years old. I finished my thought before my fingers finished typing (that's usually how it goes...), and so mistakenly added another four years onto the figure 24 years, which had already had the +6 years Mac --> Mac Classic added. I suppose it's probably partially a byproduct of ADHD, mostly of sleep deprivation. It happens.
As for me failing in "an epic way," it appears to me that it's somewhat the other way around... you went mulling through a thread just to pick at people's words... not to add anything worthwhile. And honestly, anyone who uses "epic" and "failed" together in the same sentence needs to stop watching so much Star Wars. Or possibly Star Trek. Maybe both.
Also, please consider the fact that millions still do use dial-up. You could connect to the net on a 28.8kbps modem if you so chose, though admittedly, anything that old would likely need an equally old computer. I used a SupraExpress 28.8kbps Modem up until about 1999... when I bought a 56kbps Global Village. My parents got us 8Mbps cable the next year. I was kinda pissed I wasted $100 of my own money on a crappy modem that netted me about 4-5KBps. But needless to say, if you want, you can. Aunt and Uncle still use Dial-up because it's not available in most of their houses, and the couple it is they don't frequent often enough (isn't that a beautiful redundancy?)
Oh, and your Compaq, at 150MHz, wasn't ancient in 1995. It was pretty new.
As for the comment about Wireless-N, and Ethernet, a.) I'm pretty sure ethernet will still be around in 15 years (perhaps wireless won't get up to speeds we want, and as Gigabit ethernet leaves room for much faster cable modems [which are hitting speeds of 100mbps in some places already), there's a good chance wireless won't catch up any faster than it has been. Many homes also aren't capable of wireless due to construction. Or, at least some aren't.
And let's not forget- he's buying a Mac Pro. The only expandable Mac, right? Ever hear of a wireless card? Granted, he's not really going to be using it in 15 years, but the point remains
Speaking of wireless and Ethernet, I finally found a way to remove those corrupted files LimeWire had downloaded onto my PC crashing Explorer any time the folders- or anything containing them that tried to display any info on them whatsoever- was opened; Mac's 10BT, laptop is using Wireless-G... same router, connected to the laptop via Mac OS X and deleted the damn files... over 500MB of crap had been rendered undeletable because it was in the same folder as a couple corrupt files.
Had to download a utility that'd give me "permission" (capability, really..) to both R/W to an NTFS drive. Then I connected the external HDD to my Mac and did the same thing with the corrupted files there. Pretty cool. Thought I'd... share.
Had to download a utility that'd give me "permission" (capability, really..) to both R/W to an NTFS drive. Then I connected the external HDD to my Mac and did the same thing with the corrupted files there. Pretty cool. Thought I'd... share.
Oh, great socialite, I am merely emulating you, oh great one. You were -blinking- at a comment that's in no way erroneous - the Mac Classic is released 18 years ago, and discontinued 16 years ago. That's close enough to 15 years ago. The last model Mac Classic is only one year old 15 years ago. So it didn't matter if you did the math right or not, you're wrong either way. Please do refrain yourself from making your failure even more epic.
First, where in my post did I say that dial-up is obsolete? I'm merely saying that 28.8k was top of the line back then. That's all. And by ancient, I meant today, not back in '95 (yes I am aware my sentence had some ambiguity).
I think that if you really need an 8 core Mac Pro for your work RIGHT NOW, then you should get one RIGHT NOW. But for your work, not as an investment for the future. If the kind of work you do can be done on a lower spec machine, then get the lower spec. If your work changes so that you need more power, then upgrade. If your financial situation changes and you can afford to upgrade, then upgrade.
But your original idea is rather like thinking you could buy a Rembrandt painting that won't fit on your wall, cutting a bit off the end until you can move to a bigger house, then glueing the end back on. All you're really doing is devaluing the original machine.
In any case, as a parent myself, I can tell you that your kid will eat every spare bit of cash you ever have for the next 10-15 years (or longer) anyway!
My advice would be to buy a refurb "old" Mac Pro at the highest, or an iMac at the lowest. That way you'll "save" the few hundred dollars you wanted to save, and still have a computer good enough for your needs.
But your original idea is rather like thinking you could buy a Rembrandt painting that won't fit on your wall, cutting a bit off the end until you can move to a bigger house, then glueing the end back on. All you're really doing is devaluing the original machine.
In any case, as a parent myself, I can tell you that your kid will eat every spare bit of cash you ever have for the next 10-15 years (or longer) anyway!
My advice would be to buy a refurb "old" Mac Pro at the highest, or an iMac at the lowest. That way you'll "save" the few hundred dollars you wanted to save, and still have a computer good enough for your needs.
it was a nice idea anyway...
So, I have decided against my original plan. I am now going to wait a few weeks for Penryn Macbook Pros to come out and buy a laptop instead. Oh well.
So, I have decided against my original plan. I am now going to wait a few weeks for Penryn Macbook Pros to come out and buy a laptop instead. Oh well.