I have a bit of a challenge, I would like to create a website that flash could do, that I know how to do in flash, but I hate the idea of a flash requirement. I just want people to go to the site and it would load and work. Essentially the site would have a 3d looking disc in the centre of it, of which, upon mouse over event, would rotate to bring from behind to the front the program to download. That's it. Here is a mock up of the site: http://flickr.com/photos/8-8/2962150678/sizes/o/ And here is a little bit more detail: http://flickr.com/photos/8-8/2961305193/ Is there a way to do this without a user having to have to download flash or any kind of plug-in, basically as HTML as possible. Many thanks.