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eyespii

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So in safari when you hit the green + button, safari will automatically resize the window only to however large it needs to be to fit the content of the page you're on. In firefox when you hit the green + button, it's as if i'm in windows and the window maximizes to full screen.

is there any way to get safari's + button functionality into firefox?
 
I miss this too...

Actually I'm wondering if there is some secret shortkey to toggle between the fullscreen-maximization and the fit-to-content-maximization.

If I where in charge the Apple-team should have to build this into Mac OS X.

For example a normal click on the + gives you the typical (macish) fit-to-content; but when you hold down the option key while clicking the + you get the fullscreen-maximization.

Or is this already possible? If not, does anyone know if Apple has some kind of idea box? :D
 
Firefox also doesn't close windows correctly. Ctrl-W will close a tab just like in Safari if there are 2 or more tabs open, but when only 1 tab is open it does not close the window too as it should (it closes the last tab and the window in Safari). This is just plain inconsistent behavior, and very annoying. FF needs to follow the UI standards for the platform it is running on.
 
this is why i love Safari!

also Firefox 3's toolbar doesnt go lighter when its inactive like every app does in Leopard. its GUI feels 'out of place' in OS X. another reason to use Safari! :D
 
also Firefox 3's toolbar doesnt go lighter when its inactive like every app does in Leopard. its GUI feels 'out of place' in OS X. another reason to use Safari! :D

thats false. and I dont think this is a topic you want to list one by one of the reasons someone use this or that browsers, I would love to contribute in a proper thread. :D

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Firefox also doesn't close windows correctly. Ctrl-W will close a tab just like in Safari if there are 2 or more tabs open, but when only 1 tab is open it does not close the window too as it should (it closes the last tab and the window in Safari).

I believe firefox 3 does close last window.

Im not that deeply strangled with the OSX such that I don't feel any problem with original behavior after all. There is a reason for cross-platform consistency, consider the small market impact of OSX. It actually helps Mac by offering switchers (roughly half and growing % of mac users are switchers in past 2 years) a familiar environment.

Pros and cons, its a balance Mozilla has to weigh, Im fine either way. Its too minor for me to worry about.

For OP. before the zoom button works in the future, how about zooming the webpage? full page zoom is really amazing, for me, OSX's small fonts are quite unconformable, in Firefox 3, I can just full page zoom and make the content larger, easy to read, and no extra space within the windows. :D

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I believe firefox 3 does close last window.

Im not that deeply strangled with the OSX such that I don't feel any problem with original behavior after all. There is a reason for cross-platform consistency, consider the small market impact of OSX. It actually helps Mac by offering switchers (roughly half and growing % of mac users are switchers in past 2 years) a familiar environment.

Pros and cons, its a balance Mozilla has to weigh, Im fine either way. Its too minor for me to worry about.
Yes, I'm a fairly recent switcher myself (when the mini first came out). And yes, I used FF because it was familiar, but there were enough differences that it wasn't exactly like the Windows version, but yet it wasn't really an OS X program either. That's the problem with most cross-platform programs - they really are odd beasts that don't really conform to anything. Once I started using Safari (once v2 came out) it was all over for FF. Now that I also have a Mac at work, I very rarely use FF at all (and don't miss it a bit).
 
I have my Mac Mini since October but I still have my Vista laptop. (Off course nowadays I'd happily trade it for a MacBook, but if I would sell my laptop I would get as much cash as I want for it. ;))
And I started off using Safari, but just didn't like it. I miss those little Firefox-thingies. I miss those add-on dictionaries that check your spelling. I miss some other add-ons like Firebug and Del.icio.us (although I know there's a plug-in for Safari too, but still...). I miss that built in shortkey to re-open the last tab you closed (Cmd + Shift + T on Mac)! And most of all I like how I can "google" using the address bar in Firefox.
Anyway, no hard feelings towards Safari nor it users. I know there are a lot of people out there that just love Safari. But for me? Naah... sorry, it doesn't do the trick. :)
 
I have my Mac Mini since October but I still have my Vista laptop. (Off course nowadays I'd happily trade it for a MacBook, but if I would sell my laptop I would get as much cash as I want for it. ;))
And I started off using Safari, but just didn't like it. I miss those little Firefox-thingies. I miss those add-on dictionaries that check your spelling. I miss some other add-ons like Firebug and Del.icio.us (although I know there's a plug-in for Safari too, but still...). I miss that built in shortkey to re-open the last tab you closed (Cmd + Shift + T on Mac)! And most of all I like how I can "google" using the address bar in Firefox.
Anyway, no hard feelings towards Safari nor it users. I know there are a lot of people out there that just love Safari. But for me? Naah... sorry, it doesn't do the trick. :)
I felt exactly the same way about Safari and FireFox for a long time, but when I just couldn't take all of the bugs in FF anymore (the latest versions that I have tried still need to be closed/restarted every few days to keep from slowing to a crawl or crashing). So once I finally tried Safari on a long-term basis and got used to it, I can never go back to FF. Yes I know, a browser, much like a text editor, is a personal thing, but for me Safari is it. I just wish it gave us a little more customization control (but then, that's not the Apple Way!).
 
Firefox also doesn't close windows correctly. Ctrl-W will close a tab just like in Safari if there are 2 or more tabs open, but when only 1 tab is open it does not close the window too as it should (it closes the last tab and the window in Safari). This is just plain inconsistent behavior, and very annoying. FF needs to follow the UI standards for the platform it is running on.

That's been Fixed in Firefox 3. Wait a few more weeks.. :)
 
That's been Fixed in Firefox 3. Wait a few more weeks.. :)
Thanks. I may have to give FF another try then. Do you know if there is a plugin (preferably) or other method to keep FF and Safari bookmarks synchronized easily? I loved Google Bookmark Sync on FF, but if it could also sync with Safari it would be really wonderful.
 
i dont think there is an extension to sync firefox with local safari or opera, or ie for whats worth. Firefox 's bookmarks system is getting more unique with version 3, it won't be able to be utilized by other browsers fully even if you export/import it.

I would think for ppl who need cross-browsers, cross-platforms, cross-computers bookmark sync, online bookmark systems like protopage.com or del.icio.us are best fit.
 
i dont think there is an extension to sync firefox with local safari or opera, or ie for whats worth. Firefox 's bookmarks system is getting more unique with version 3, it won't be able to be utilized by other browsers fully even if you export/import it.

I would think for ppl who need cross-browsers, cross-platforms, cross-computers bookmark sync, online bookmark systems like protopage.com or del.icio.us are best fit.
That's too bad. Online bookmark systems certainly have their place, but are much less convenient to use IMHO. I guess I can just use .Mac online bookmarks for the few times I might want to use FF or some other browser.
Unfortunately, that eliminates FF as a major browser choice for me.
 
Camino (built off the Gecko codebase for Firefox but much more Mac-integrated) has a working click-to-zoom green button and shift (or was it option)-clicking it does maximise-to-screen. Or at least it did a few months ago when I last used it. Worth a test drive at least, surely.
 
That's too bad. Online bookmark systems certainly have their place, but are much less convenient to use IMHO. I guess I can just use .Mac online bookmarks for the few times I might want to use FF or some other browser.
Unfortunately, that eliminates FF as a major browser choice for me.

yes indeed, there isn't a universal perfect browser for all of us. Give it a try tho, if its pros can't outweigh its cons for you, then the choice for you would be clear after all. :)

PS. I found online bookmarks very easy to use for my personal consumption...lol
 
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