And still a big group of people went to the bridge today to raise awareness and there are tshirts and other stuff being made about it, its profits being sent to a suicide hotline, which helps tons of people everyday.
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Can PostSecret and Facebook Save a Life?
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And still a big group of people went to the bridge today to raise awareness and there are tshirts and other stuff being made about it, its profits being sent to a suicide hotline, which helps tons of people everyday.
The PostSecret guy is capitalizing on this? Sure, maybe 100% of the profit goes to his suicide hotline, but the Golden Gate event sounds like a good place to market his books.
Anyone been to the Golden Gate T-shirt event? Is he selling his books?
Who's selling the T-shirts? How do we know the proceeds go to the suicide hotline?
EDIT: what happened to the post I was replying to?
EDIT: what happened to the post I was replying to?
The groups not there to change things that have happened, it's there to prevent things that may happen.
You got your post I was replying to deleted. Is that because it IS the post secret guy selling his books at this event?
I never said anything about changing the past. I asked if me joining a facebook group would change anything? Would it prevent suicides in the future? Would it make me more likely to get spam trying to sell me the next PostSecret book?
No, it's because I deleted it.
The Facebook Group and the event weren't created by PostSecret, they were created by people who saw the postcard and wanted to show their support. Someone thought of doing tshirts for the people who couldn't go to San Francisco still be able to show their support and give the proceeds to a suicide hotline.
Now what is wrong with people wanting to show that they care?
Nothing. I'm just saying it's wrong to suggest that Facebook can save a life (thread title).
Because websites don't DO anything.
People save lives.
Dogs save lives.
Mothers with children trapped under cars save lives.
Websites do not.
hmm, I misinterpreted you post. Either way...."If I vote in the General Election will it do anything? What difference will one person make?"....seriously? Do you not get it? When people come together to support a cause s*** happens. If this group was hosted on a different medium would your opinion change? It seems like it's just because it's facebook that's giving you issues.
Yes, but how do people know to save a life?
How is information disseminated?
How is activism directed?
Your point is facile at best.
You're equating an election, something that actually decides future policy and leadership, with a facebook group, something often about "liking stuff". Do you want to retract your post, or have me tear it apart in a logical fallacies rant?
Is the correct answer Facebook?
I'm trying to get the point across that the opinion of "will it really make a difference if I join?" is stupid. If all 50,000 people who joined had that opinion...there wouldn't be 50,000 people in the group. But go ahead, rant away. If all you can do is argue my analogy then clearly you're on loose footing.
Also...have you ever read any of the stuff on that site? There are often comments or postcards from individuals saying that the things they've read on the site have helped them through difficult situations, even helping them get through suicidal feelings. Websites can save lives. I believe that 100%
The fact remains that a Facebook group does nothing, while an election actually decides some important things. Therefore you made no point. Unless you can find something important that does nothing (like Facebook) that relates in the same way as an election.
And joining the group does what exactly?
Of course. I'm a big PostSecret fan. I have several of the books and have purchased some as gifts for friends. That doesn't make this Facebook ordeal any less stupid.
If people believe that their lives were saved by something they read on the internet that was not directed at them, then those people need to take a long look at themselves and how they interpret the world. In my opinion it's just sad and lame.
It's only in your opinion that the group does nothing, and unless you've been in a position where you're having suicidal feelings, I don't think you're one to comment on how effective words on an internet site may be.
Do you think lives can be saved by what people read in books? Or do you only believe in physical healing? Let them jump and see if our machines can bring them back to life...anything else is pointless.
If you don't believe that anybody can be affected by anything they read on the internet, why on earth are you wasting your time posting your sad, lame and ineffectual opinions?
That's not what I said, don't twist my words, skunk. Let me revise: People making a big anti-suicide facebook group likely won't stop someone from committing suicide.
How is Facebook different than any other site on the web? So you admit that a website can make a difference but for some reason Facebook is exempt from that?
Really skunk? You want me to somehow make an absolute assumption without gathering any data? If one single life is saved by some delusional person browsing facebook I can't account for that.
What sort of statement are you looking for me to make? Facebook is an effective way to prevent suicide?
I'm not looking for you to make any statement. It is you who seems intent on making statements, on the internet, belittling people who use the internet.
Quote where I have belittled those who use the internet. I use the internet, so I'm sure I did not.
