Can someone else test this with Notes?

Discussion in 'OS X El Capitan (10.11)' started by jrlcopy, Oct 8, 2015.

  1. jrlcopy macrumors 6502


    Jun 20, 2007
    I'm checking to see if this is just mine 10.11 or everyones.

    1. Open Notes,
    2. Minimize it to the doc (press the yellow minus in the top left),
    3. Switch to 'using' another app, chrome or something.
    4. Now click on the main Notes icon in the doc (not where it minimized to, as if you were launching it for the first time).

    Does it unminimize from near the Trashcan?

    Mine stays next to the trashcan, I have to click the minimized window to bring it up.
  2. mikzn macrumors 65816


    Sep 2, 2013
    pretty much like you described, does not unminimize by just clicking the notes application - but does return if I move the mouse to to top of contextual menu "Notes" when I release the mouse on "notes" the minimized window returns

    also unminimize from the area near the trash can - everything seems normal to me.
  3. jrlcopy thread starter macrumors 6502


    Jun 20, 2007
    Thanks for checking. It should unminimize by clicking on the app icon in the dock like EVERY OTHER APP... lol guess it's another apple bug, sometimes it seems like Apple can never find the original engineers that built their apps every time they come out with a new version.
  4. yillbs macrumors 6502


    Oct 2, 2015
    i think the wrong idea is understood when it comes to developing applications. you have to keep in mind, application version changes happen for one of three, or all three reasons.

    1. Feature additions
    2. security fixes
    3. upgrade paths

    As an app developer ( in house, client specific ) i get this A LOT. We do mostly web apps, but the same system applies. Other technology increases just as fast as ours does. PHP, MySQL, Apache, Lightspeed, etc. When that happens, we have to make sure our applications are able to keep up, AKA run at optimal speed on these new systems, for example, we try to keep our php applications running on the latest version of php, at all times.
    Our applications are not really that big, but usually require 3 - 4 people to work on them, when php releases a new version, the first thing we can do is read the php docs to see what's changed, ways to make our app faster, and provide better performance. In doing so, things get over looked. I may make a change to the way a password is stored when a new mysql engine is released, and even though I noted the code, and pplied the change log to the file, someone might come behind me and notice a better way to do it. I'll get notifed, i'l review, if the app still WORKS as intended after his fix, we have to assume he kew what he was doing. same rule applies to our IOS apps, and Android apps. However, when doing so, their will ALWAYS be things that get over looked. what YOU call a bug, WE call " by design" anything that happens with the app, happened for a reason, its my job to do the best to make sure it doesn't happen again, however, people will ALWAYS run my software on various versions of php, 5.3, 5.4, 5.5, 5.6, etc. Each of those versions may have removed a needed dependency for it to work properly. When that happens, they then open a bug report. It's nearly impossible to make it work with every version of php / apache /mysql available, which is why we have minimum requirements, just as apple does. My point is though, software is never done, it's never bug free, and it's never " completed ". Whenever something is added, or changed, it causes something ELSE to function differently ( almost always ). As a human, no amount of documentation can keep me up to par,and im sure the same applies to apples products. they are FORCED to release before everything works in order to compete with compeition, they can't release el captain for example with a broken piece of software so they launch it knowing it doens't work, knowing they will fix it, but it's still not really a " bug " per say. everything you use in OSX probably has a bug somewhere, but you may not be able to see it. Also, as a developer, we usually dont pride ourselves on user interaction, so this " bug" to you could simply be no more than someone in UX making a bad call!

    Sorry for the rant.. i was bored.
  5. jrlcopy thread starter macrumors 6502


    Jun 20, 2007
    I do appreciate the long text, and not arguing with any of your points, I think my overall issue is that the 'bug' that I'm describing has been included with basically every single Apple Appl and other app since 10.4? or earlier... Ya minimize it, and you click on it to spring it back to life no matter if it's minimized or not.

    And I'm sure it's something that they forgot to include in the .app package file when compiling it. It's just annoying and an overall quality issue with Apple.

    Safari, ever since Version 8, if I'm downloading more than 10 400mb files at a time, Safari crashes. Didn't do that before.

    Safari History: If I clicked on a link while browsing a safari history item, for whatever reason, instead of remembering my place in the history like it used to do, it now feels the need to clear my search, Version 8+.

    Safari URL links: http://testusername:testpassword@notreal.notreal This URL used to work in Safari and would log you into a password protected site, now that URL freaks out safari and asks if you're trying to open something in the app store, Version 8+.

    iOS 9: You used to be able to search for words that made up the app, i.e. "Bank of America" you could start to type in Bank or America and it would auto suggest the correct app that you wanted. Ever since iOS 9, you actually have to spell out the apps name word for word, which is BofA. iOS can't find the app unless it's the specific name.

    Yes everything above could be a UX/UI design choice, but it really doesn't seem like that. These are just odd features to remove.

    And yes, everything above I submit to Apple's Bug Report Server.

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