Can someone explain Photos/Photostream/iCloud Photo Library to me please?

Discussion in 'iOS 8' started by karansaraf, Sep 17, 2014.

  1. karansaraf macrumors regular

    Jul 18, 2010
    Just installed iOS 8.

    Previously there was a camera roll and my photo stream.

    Now there are "recent photos" and all the photos I've ever taken in the Photos tab.

    Are the photos in the "photos" tab all stored locally or on iCloud? If I delete them from the photos tab, will they be removed from my iCloud (and thereby not contribute to my 5GB limit?)

    I want to prune the photos that are taking up space in my 5GB limit - previously I would have to delete them from my photo stream and my phone, now do I just delete them from the "photos" tab, and can be confident they will not be contributing to my storage limit?
  2. DarkAnnie macrumors member


    Sep 5, 2006
    It's. All. ****ed. Up. Hate it so damn much I actually want to shed tears.
  3. almostirish macrumors member

    Sep 17, 2013
    Came here to ask the same question except I want to store all my photos in iCloud instead of on my phone to clear space. How do I do that?

  4. DarkAnnie macrumors member


    Sep 5, 2006
    You can't! It's all in one big album, deleting a photo will get rid of it everywhere. And if you want to find a certain photo you took ages ago, and you don't remember the year or where it was taken, good luck! :(
  5. Razeus macrumors 603

    Jul 11, 2008
    Turn on "My Photostream" in the Photos settings.

    This is really a cluster **** by Apple.

    I don't know if my photos will still go up into the cloud and appear in iPhoto on my desktop like they always have, since Photos is not ready for desktop. I guess I'll continue to use Image Capture as usual to back them up to my hard drives until Apple sheds light on what's going on.

    Recently Added is just an album, and therefore in the "Albums" section. Photos is ALL your photos. Shared photos are the ones you shared. Those sections make sense and users need to used to it. It's more simplified and I don't see a problem with it.

    I just want to know how long does "recently added" apply? 30 days? 2 weeks?
  6. Hustler1337 macrumors 68000


    Dec 23, 2010
    London, UK
    LOOOL, i'd have to agree with you there. It all seems messed up at the moment, but I guess they've simplified it, just that we're not seeing what we're used to and everyone's freaking out. Your comment made my day :)
  7. Razeus macrumors 603

    Jul 11, 2008
  8. AudioAw2015, Sep 17, 2014
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2014

    AudioAw2015 macrumors newbie

    Apr 28, 2014
    Basically, any photos or videos you take will be uploaded to iCloud library if you enabled it and it'll disable your camera roll backup. This includes videos as well which I find to be a pain because they take quite a long time to upload.

    And when you delete the photo from your phone, it sort of deletes it from the cloud. Actually, it just moves them to this recently deleted folder so that you can recover some photos within 30 days. But there is a flaw with this because this folder actually uses your iCloud storage so if you keep taking photos and love to delete a bunch of them, you gotta remember to clear that recent folder out. Otherwise it'll just keep piling up.
  9. MaxPayne79 macrumors regular

    Jun 11, 2014
    yeah, please, somebody, explain this **** to me. Pleeeeaasssee...
  10. patrickowtf macrumors member

    May 21, 2012
  11. matttye macrumors 601

    Mar 25, 2009
    Lincoln, England
    This is the most bodged release to date. Features pulled at the last second...I had an app which updated with health kit features earlier but it has updated again and removed those features since because Apple found critical bugs in it at the last minute.

    Sort it out Apple!
  12. Steviejobz macrumors 68000

    Jun 19, 2010
    Apple forgot to include iCloud Photo Library in this release. #epicfail

    So all camera roll is mixed in with other albums sorted by year. The "photos" tab within Photos app is dumb, not well thought out and should be flexible. Moments, collections are useless for just random photos shot with phone. I want those in a separate album that I can manage, delete, download, etc.
  13. redman042 macrumors 68030


    Jun 13, 2008
    I just upgraded to iOS 8 on a 5s and iPad Air. Don't see My iCloud Photos setting or anything like that. There is a My Photo Stream.

    Did Apple automatically convert Photo Stream to iCloud Photos and remove the 1000 photo limit? If so, why do photos not show up as an item using storage in my iCloud?

    I understood iCloud Photos to include removing full res photos from your phone and storing them in the cloud, with lower res versions stored locally. Is it still doing that? If so, what happens if I plug my phone into my PC and want to pull off full-res photos?

    If photos are on iCloud, why do they not show up on

    I don't get what's happening and unfortunately all of the info I've found online is based on the keynote announcement and not the details of what was actually released.
  14. DotCom2 macrumors 68040

    Feb 22, 2009
  15. hasanahmad macrumors 65816

    May 20, 2009
    I love the smell of anger over petty issues whihc are not issues.
  16. AudioAw2015 macrumors newbie

    Apr 28, 2014
    I'm using the iCloud library right now, and i think it's just going to replace photostream in the future. I was given the option to switch to it during iOS beta.

    It's the same idea as photostream, but uploads full res photos instead and uses your measly 5gb of iCloud storage. Havent tried the optimize local storage option yet, but I think it'll require you to install the iCloud control panel on pc to gain access to the full res photos.

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