Mainly to shut up Galaxy owners bragging about their cameras. I know I'd never use it. I barely ever use the cameras on my iPhone 4.
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Can someone explain the need for a camera??
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Almost all of the laptops I have bought in the last 5 years have had a webcam, and I have rarely ever used them but you know it makes a great selling point later when unloading it. 
Actually though, I have started to travel periodically for work. Unfortunately my work laptop is "locked down" and so I can't install anything I want on it (at least not without facing the wrath of IT). I really don't want to have to take a full second laptop just to have some face time with my wife. This would really solve the problem for me.
Actually though, I have started to travel periodically for work. Unfortunately my work laptop is "locked down" and so I can't install anything I want on it (at least not without facing the wrath of IT). I really don't want to have to take a full second laptop just to have some face time with my wife. This would really solve the problem for me.
You got it.
A bit over the top.
If you are doing inventory in a stock room that has now wireless access? The inventory could be of dead computers / broken monitors etc. The point is you may not be around a wireless connection, or even a cellular connection.
How would a rear facing camera be cumbersome? It's not like you have to do anything extra. The impractical is subjective.
Tip for you, don't go into law enforcement, you'll never solve a thing.
Know what's funny?
iPad - $500-$800 and people are trying to force it to be something it's not to attempt to justify the purchase. Case-in-point: scanning. Really people? You're THAT cheap that you won't get a $200 MFP to handle those tasks significantly better than the iPad? Or a $80 ScanSnap?
If the camera on the Ipad (if it gets one) is as good as the Iphone 4 then it would be incredibly useful. If you've tried the app Cam Scanner+, you can take pictures of documents, string them together into a PDF file, and then send it to your dropbox or other classmates! It's a very quick and streamlined way to backup important documents on the go.
Also, so what if someone spent 500-800$ on an Ipad? This doesn't necessarily mean that person is rich enough to spend 80-200$ on a scanner!
The IPad (again if it gets the same camera as the IPhone 4) does a "good enough" job and is convenient enough to justify using it over a traditional scanner, as long as you aren't trying to make digital copies of your photos...
They are still right though, how else would they spell out xylophonez....
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I wonder what percentage of iPad owners/future iPad2 owners also own an iPhone? I really don't see a point. Front facing for FaceTime indeed, but a rear? Is it really necessary in the real world? I can FaceTime on my MacBook & iMac, but dispair, I cannot flip to the rear facing camera to show my FaceTimee the wall behind my iMac... It doesn't matter.
More's to the point, how much of a tit will you look taking a photo of your family on holiday with an iPad? It'll be "Check out the douche bag taking photos with his iiiiiiiPad...Douche bag."
JotNot Pro here too. I'm on the road all the time, and JotNot with some practice and the right post-processing settings honestly works better than the multi-function printer/scanner devices we have in our field kits. I use it every trip I take. No huge software suites to install either.
I buy foreclosed homes, it would be great to take photos on a walk through and send them to the office.
I would also like a camera as I use square up and I could take a photo of the person signing the visa receipt as they are doing it.
I would also like a camera as I use square up and I could take a photo of the person signing the visa receipt as they are doing it.
This comment shows a fundamental inability to think outside the box. Some jobs are not sit on your &@X all day, therefore a stationary scanner won't be that handy. A scansnap is a one function device. How likely is it someone will be carrying that around for just in case?
This answer to your conundrum is right there in your comments.
The problem with the above is both are looking at how does a rear facing camera relate to me. It may not relate to you at all. It does not mean it can not be useful to others.
How about a real estate agent visiting a person selling their home. They take their iPad with either a stock or custom Real Estate app to the seller's home. They take pictures of the house and any documents they need to. No need to carry a camera, a laptop and scanner.
How about a company who has their inventory barcoded? Yeah you can use a bar code scanner, but if you had an iPad with an inventory app you can scan it and make edits/notes right there on the fly.
These are just a couple of examples. This is a emerging market and people will try to find uses for devices to make their life/jobs more productive. Just because you see no need really means nothing. If you really had some insight we would buying your tablet.
For the record, the camera on the back is no big deal to me, it would be nice to have. If does come about, how many here will refuse to buy because there is rear camera?
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I already have my iPad in my hands while working out in the field. I hate having to pull out my iPhone to photograph receipts.
I was considering creating an app for this. Evaluating houses either for purchase, or for home inspections or even formal appraisals. Same could go for the auto repair/insurance industry. But I never went too far since it turned out the 1st gen iPad didn't come with a camera, I held out hope until it actually shipped.
I've thought of dozens if not hundreds of uses for a camera on an iPad. No, not everyone will need a camera and to some it might be silly to actually take family photos with some. Sorry to see others lack the creativity to see the possibilities.
Exactly! Thank you! Some folks need SJ to tell them who, what, when and how.
Key phrase:
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I can see an app for augmented reality where you walk down the street, holding your iPad up in front of you and all the women appear naked on your screen.
I could see that making top of the charts the 1st day of release!
Only drawback I can see is all the accidents the men having walking around with iPads stuck in front of the faces.
I could see that making top of the charts the 1st day of release!
Only drawback I can see is all the accidents the men having walking around with iPads stuck in front of the faces.
iPod Touch envy and iPhone-oriented OCD are the only two reasons I can comprehend. Using an iPad as a camera has to be so.....well lets just say the guys strutting down the street carrying a ginormous boombox on their shoulder looked pretty stupid at the time as well.
That said, I don't care if it gets one. But its the least valuable feature I can think of in my laundry list of what I'd want to have in the second-generation iPad. All this talk about business/enterprise ways to use the camera is moot until/unless you've experienced just how hostile Apple is towards developers who want to do "unique" things with their hardware. You will either use it their way, with their API's fully intact, or be rejected. This mentality is fine for consumer-grade apps. But when you are talking enterprise-class apps, you need to take a more VAR approach with your developers or they have very little to zero reason to want to use your products in that setting. The "VA" (Value Added) part of "VAR" is almost meaningless when you are talking Apple products....they just don't embrace anyone adding value to their stuff. Again, I've no quarrel with this for CONSUMER markets. But enterprise markets have different needs and Apple doesn't get that.
That and I'm almost positive Apple won't give us a GREAT camera in there in the first place. They never do. Passable, sure...but not great.
That said, I don't care if it gets one. But its the least valuable feature I can think of in my laundry list of what I'd want to have in the second-generation iPad. All this talk about business/enterprise ways to use the camera is moot until/unless you've experienced just how hostile Apple is towards developers who want to do "unique" things with their hardware. You will either use it their way, with their API's fully intact, or be rejected. This mentality is fine for consumer-grade apps. But when you are talking enterprise-class apps, you need to take a more VAR approach with your developers or they have very little to zero reason to want to use your products in that setting. The "VA" (Value Added) part of "VAR" is almost meaningless when you are talking Apple products....they just don't embrace anyone adding value to their stuff. Again, I've no quarrel with this for CONSUMER markets. But enterprise markets have different needs and Apple doesn't get that.
That and I'm almost positive Apple won't give us a GREAT camera in there in the first place. They never do. Passable, sure...but not great.
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I kinda hope that there will be a camera-less iPad 2 version. A lot of places don't allow devices with cameras, I'd hate to have to leave another device at home because manufacturers stuff cameras into everything.
Yup. Like courts, high security private contractors, etc.
Fail.
Do you know the courts do not allow cameras?
This comment is a pretty silly comparison. It would seem you totally ignore the previous posts about how it could be used.
I respect you laundry list, it's based on your needs. However the rest is just conjecture. Some how, OCR apps for the iphone are getting approved. One company allows you take a photo of a check deposit and make the deposit right from the phone.
Good point.
Ah.. the infamous Fail. The word used when you have nothing better to say. You're imaginative response is on par with your comments:
Originally Posted by Consultant
I suspect people who say they want a camera are feature nerds who can't afford an iPhone or a camera with video capabilities, and probably can't afford an iPad either.
The above shows the fundamental problem with most thinking, the inability to think beyond your own need. It is why most people never make any real money and work for a living, lack of imagination and the will to act on it.
Like I said, your suspicions lead no where. Don't go into Law Enforcement.
In regard to Courts, depends on the court. In NYC you can bring an iPhone in if you are serving jury duty. A few years ago they held on to cell phones with camera. Each juror had to pick up their phone at the end of the day.
Also, I never alluded to the camera being ideal for all situations.
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I use my iPhone ALL THE TIME to take screen caps of white boards after meetings at work. It even does a decent job of taking screen caps of handouts that I can then feed into Evernote which will OCR them for me. I'd never use a rear facing camera on my iPad to take conventional photos, but I would use them in a business setting like that all the time.
Ah.. the infamous Fail. The word used when you have nothing better to say. You're imaginative response is on par with your comments:
Originally Posted by Consultant![]()
I suspect people who say they want a camera are feature nerds who can't afford an iPhone or a camera with video capabilities, and probably can't afford an iPad either.
The above shows the fundamental problem with most thinking, the inability to think beyond your own need. It is why most people never make any real money and work for a living, lack of imagination and the will to act on it.
Like I said, your suspicions lead no where. Don't go into Law Enforcement.
In regard to Courts, depends on the court. In NYC you can bring an iPhone in if you are serving jury duty. A few years ago they held on to cell phones with camera. Each juror had to pick up their phone at the end of the day.
Also, I never alluded to the camera being ideal for all situations.
You're using State Court as your example but NY Federal Court won't allow any electronics in at all.
This explains it a little better:
http://mobilenextbigthing.biz/2010/12/03/mobile-barcodes-bring-newspapers-and-magazines-to-life/
I'm doing quite fine without Facetime or a two-camera device. Hell, I barely use the camera on the phone I currently have (because picture/video quality SUCKS compared to a dedicated camera).
In fact, I'd even argue against a business need for Facetime. I'm still not seeing the iPad being marketed as a general corporate device.
In fact, I'd even argue against a business need for Facetime. I'm still not seeing the iPad being marketed as a general corporate device.