I think I have a clue, I installed a program called iSheriff, and since then, Safari wont show anything but the isheriff page saying it doesn't trust it, even after I have used cleanapp to uninstall. It does affect all my apple programs (Safari, Disk Utility, iTunes, Dashbord, Software Update, etc) Can someone help with what to do now, I am thinking it may deal with prefs, but I cant see why, since Fire fox works right, and reads the connection just fine, it only affects the apple apps, and I can't even do a repair permissions