just got off with apple, who said that my mbp17 (canada, ordered the night of announcement oct24) now has an estimated ship date of nov9. this is odd though, as the web pane of Order Status still says the same thing it's said since the beginning: "Ships by: Nov 07".
the representative added expedited shipping, as i mentioned that this falls beyond the 10 day bit the store had said when i placed the order... so at least i have that to be happy about.