So i know we have the official thread, but its kinda a mush of everything. So this one is just about the Pre Order date. What does everyone thing? As well does everyone even think there will be a pre order? I tried to read thought the official canadian thread and some believe there wont even be a pre order. What does everyone think. Personally i believe there will be a pre-order solely because of the set up of the apple website when you click "iphone" to purchase.