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Cancelling HD 4780 for GTX 285. Who else?

I've RMA'ed and am sending my Apple 4780 back for a refund. Makes no sense to pay 380 for a card that is outperformed by one that will sell at around the same price.

My 8800GT will do until the 285 is available. :D
 
pprior said:
I DON"T want to run inferior versions of games, but that's what people seem to put out for mac, dude! You want to play C&C - it's cider, you want to play Battlefield, it's cider...

those happen to be the games I enjoy playing, and they happen to blow chunks with the Nvidia cards because of who knows why, but it's reality. Sure I wish (and would pay for!) native mac game software, but we all know that doesn't happen much.

In case I wasn't clear, I'm not running torrented cider hacks of PC games or rolling my own, I'm buying the games directly - EA specifically.
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I like Unreal Tournament and Quake three and four a lot. Those are really the only ones I know besides little blaster games like Platypus or concept games like Plasma Pong or Zenerchi. So I guess that's why I haven't seen a cider game. I'm almost finished with Zenerchi! :) Neat game! I played Halo, WarHammer, and Savage 2 some - are any of those cider?
 
Should I Or not?

I have 2 4870's in my PC which I can't run crossfire on.

Should I return the 4870's and run one GTX285 + 8800GT? I have 3 monitors to run still.

The GTX will still be better in games under bootcamp..and I save some money.
 
Chad H said:
I thought the gtx 285 was alot better than the ATI offered with the current mac pros?
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It will depend on the GTX 285 Mac drivers.
For PCs the GTX 285 is around 34 percent more powerful than the 4870 512MB card.
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OMG :eek: Great news on the GTX285 - so glad I haven't ordered my Mac Pro yet. Yes, I'm going to order the GTX285 instead of the ATi 4870. :cool:
 
Tesselator said:
I like Unreal Tournament and Quake three and four a lot. Those are really the only ones I know besides little blaster games like Platypus or concept games like Plasma Pong or Zenerchi. So I guess that's why I haven't seen a cider game. I'm almost finished with Zenerchi! :) Neat game! I played Halo, WarHammer, and Savage 2 some - are any of those cider?
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None of those are Cider, to my knowledge.
 
Topper said:
It will depend on the GTX 285 Mac drivers.
For PCs the GTX 285 is around 34 percent more powerful than the 4870 512MB card.
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Its here and there in the PC as well, pretty much all games run better on the GTX285 but the 4870 isn't far off on some. 4870 x2 beats the GTX285 quite easily...but can't be done by the looks.
 
Hey, I got a question.

I want to buy my Mac Pro around July and August. Will the Geforce 285 only be available in any electronic stores or will I be able to buy my Mac Pro directly from apple with this card? If not, I'll probably need to buy the standart GT120 and replace it with the GF285 !

Also anybody know if this card will be available in Europe, too?
 
seisend said:
Hey, I got a question.

I want to buy my Mac Pro around July and August. Will the Geforce 285 only be available in any electronic stores or will I be able to buy my Mac Pro directly from apple with this card? If not, I'll probably need to buy the standart GT120 and replace it with the GF285 !

Also anybody know if this card will be available in Europe, too?
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It won't be BTO, so you will have to get the GT120 then replace it. Not sure of any european sellers yet.
 
TheStrudel said:
None of those are Cider, to my knowledge.
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Halo is an actual native port, but making a Cider game isn't that hard.

seisend said:
okey thanks !

well, I could also run the GT120 and the 285 together, right? I don't mean SLI. I got two 24" monitors. And would hook up every card to one monitor.
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I like the way you think... I do the same thing. You DO know that each card has two ports, right? You can run two monitors on one card.

The performance discrepancy between the cards is something to keep in mind. If you need to use both monitors for a professional program, you'll want to put them both on the GTX 285.
 
Tallest Skil said:
I like the way you think... I do the same thing. You DO know that each card has two ports, right? You can run two monitors on one card.

The performance discrepancy between the cards is something to keep in mind. If you need to use both monitors for a professional program, you'll want to put them both on the GTX 285.
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Yes I do know. Well, I use the Mac Pro basically for music production. Also I need it to render HD Videos (finalcut/imovie/after effects). Some times I play some games under Bootcamp. I think its not a bad idea to have a card for each monitor. I would only play games on one monitor (with the 285). I know the Mac pro is not a gaming machine, as I said primary for music work with double screens.. Also I don't think, that I can sell my GT120 for a good price, so I think it would be the best letting the card in the beast.
 
seisend said:
Yes I do know. Well, I use the Mac Pro basically for music production. Also I need it to render HD Videos (finalcut/imovie/after effects). Some times I play some games under Bootcamp. I think its not a bad idea to have a card for each monitor. I would only play games on one monitor (with the 285). I know the Mac pro is not a gaming machine, as I said primary for music work with double screens.. Also I don't think, that I can sell my GT120 for a good price, so I think it would be the best letting the card in the beast.
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Games... Well, having two cards from nVidia might help, but when I play games, Windows 7 wigs out on me. I have to unplug one of the monitors for games to work properly (I have the 4870/GT 120 combo).

"Games" being The Orange Box, World In Conflict, and Hearts of Iron II.
 
seisend said:
okey thanks !

well, I could also run the GT120 and the 285 together, right? I don't mean SLI. I got two 24" monitors. And would hook up every card to one monitor.
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Wouldn't really matter, the second card would come useful if you have to connect any additional monitors up.
 
nah, i went with the Apple 4870 regardless. might be a while before Apple actually releases their version. the piggy bank squealed and now i can see its ribs
 
sparkie7 said:
nah, i went with the Apple 4870 regardless. might be a while before Apple actually releases their version. the piggy bank squealed and now i can see its ribs
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Apple version? There won't be any. It is EVGA who is making the Mac Version, and it is shipping in like 10 days.
 
Well what about for intense gamers? I mean how much of a difference would you actually see from switching from the ATI to the new Nvidia? I play crysis, fear 2, left 4 dead. You know the normal GPU raping games. :)
 
sparkie7 said:
huh? yeah course its the mac version. thats why my piggy is looking raped. i walked into my local apple store and walked out with one.

one of these

http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MB999ZM/A

dunno what you mean by the delays
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This thread is about GTX 285, and who is cancelling their Radeon 4870 for it.

You said "nah, i went with the Apple 4870 regardless, might be a while before Apple actually releases their version"

As if you meant that the GTX is far away.
 
Chad H said:
Well what about for intense gamers? I mean how much of a difference would you actually see from switching from the ATI to the new Nvidia? I play crysis, fear 2, left 4 dead. You know the normal GPU raping games. :)
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The GTX 285 is on a higher level then the 4870. It is hard to find reviews of the cards versus each other. But yes, you will notice a big difference. More memory, faster clocks... and in Crysis, more compatibility.
 
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