Ok, it was working, auto login was set. The computer got a kernel panic and now when it boots up the login screen says Mac OS X with a blue apple, has 2 fields that are blank, Name and Password. It does not give a computer name on the screen. When I boot off of a 10.1 cd or a 10.2 cd and try to reset the password it says there are no users to select from. Is there a possibility that this computer has os 10.0 on it? If so would that account for no computer name being displayed on the login screen or is that a symptoms that the system and users are totally screwed up? Is there a bootable cd that will let me see the files that are on the HD? Maybe even copy the files to an external hd or something? If I were to reinstall with the users being screwed up is there a chance the data might get lost or are the files safe? Sorry for all the questions, if you can answer any or all that would be helpful. Thanks. Also, if I boot off of the 10.2 cd, I have the option to archive and install and even preserve user and network settings. Does that mean for sure that I have os 10.2 on here already? Or would I even be given an archive and install option if it was 10.1 or 10.0? Also if I did an archive and install preserving user settings and the users are messed up, would the files in the home folders be protected? I would imagine that an OS install would not delete them but I thought I would check and make sure.