Canon HF-10 and MacBook

Discussion in 'Digital Video' started by Elevatorguy, Nov 28, 2008.

  1. Elevatorguy macrumors newbie

    Nov 28, 2008
    I have a brand new Canon HF-10 and a brand new White MacBook 2.4 gHz with integrated graphics (last years model). Although it may be funny, I don't really know how to use either one yet. I am going on a trip to Disney tomorrow and am looking for advice. I have an additional 16 GB SDHC in addition to the 16 GB of internal memory. I can't see that as being an issue. What I need to know is what the best way is to dump my footage each day onto the hard drive. I have iMovie 08 on the Mac. I want to clear the footage of the camcorder each day. I understand that the AVCHD codec can be hard to work with. What is the best way to load the files onto my hard drive each day? I intend to burn each days footage to a DVD in AVCHD format when I get home. What is the maximum time I can burn onto each dual layer DVD in 1920x1080 format? What is the easiest way to do this? I need to be sure to transfer my video onto my computer in such a way that it will not change the format or the quality of the resolution to something that will be worse when I go to burn it later.

    Thanks in advance for the help.
  2. NRose8989 macrumors 6502a

    Feb 6, 2008
    To tell you the truth, I wouldn't be worried about dumping your footage after each day since you have 32 GB to work with. It's kinda funny because i also have a HF-10 and though there is enough built in memory for about 2 hours of video, The battery life on these things is a little over a hour of recording time and it takes a couples hours to charge. So unless you also have extra batteries, I wouldn't worry about archiving your video just yet.

    Though I also wouldn't recommend using DVD's either because you will be wasting more time then if you just used the disk image method here: HF10 / HF100 AVCHD & Mac Advice

    EDIT: Also another piece of advice is to start shooting test clips NOW...... and figure out which settings you like the best. It would be a shame for you to shoot an entire trips worth of video, Just to come home and find out that your don't like the way they looks.
  3. Elevatorguy thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 28, 2008
    Thanks for the response and the advice. I understand what you are saying about testing first. I have that link you provided saved in my Bookmarks. I read it a few times and am still confused. I guess my question is this. If I record footage and hook up the cam to the computer via USB, will iMovie import the files in the AVCHD format or will they convert them to another format? If they convert them, how much more space does the new format use? I have a 160 GB hard drive and figure that in full HD mode, 1 hour is about 8 gigs in AVCHD format. If I record 10 hours or so of footage that will be around 80 gigs of space. I need to know what the easiest way is to transfer the files to the hard drive in raw format so that I can do some small editing and burn them later. Thanks again for any and all help.
  4. Courtaj macrumors 6502a


    Jul 3, 2008
    Edinburgh, U.K.
    iMovie will convert AVCHD to AIC.

    Archiving the raw AVCHD will use up about 8GB per hour of video. Archiving AIC will use up about 50GB per hour of video.

    Best archival strategy in my opinion is to make a disk image of the memory card, verify the clips have copied correctly by mounting the disk image, opening iMovie, and playing a few clips in the camera import preview window. When satisfied, format the card in preparation for the next day's shooting.

    Making a .dmg is much easier to do than to explain. Try following the instructions in the linked thread with a card containing some test footage and report back if you get stuck.

  5. Elevatorguy thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 28, 2008
    Thanks very much for the help. It is certainly appreciated. I had some trouble following the directions but they did get me close enough to get the job done I think. What I ended up doing was Disk Utility>File>New>Disk Image From...and then choose the AVCHD file and name it whatever and sent it to my desktop where it shows up as a DMG file. One thing I am unsure about is the fact that when I connect the camcorder I get 2 icons on the desktop. One is CANON and the other has the USB pic, which is how I am connecting it. Is the AVCHD file, which is found in both, the same? The sizes were not quite the same. The CANON icon led me to a larger AVCHD folder so I used that one. Also, I assume that I need to "eject" all of these icons before I disconnect the computer, but I am not sure why. Again, I am brand new to Mac. As far as burning these disk images I am creating to DVDs, is there a preferred method? I plan on using iMovie unless there is an easier or better way. Thanks again for the help. For my settings on the camcorder, I am using the "P" mode, recording in 60i (I am hoping that I am not making a mistake with this choice), with FXP resolution, image stabilization on, and everything else on auto. Another question about the there any way to have the camcorder switch automatically from the SDHC card to the internal memory? It wouldn't be good if I was taping and it got cutoff because I ran out of one type of memory. Is this something that can be done with a setting or do I just need to keep an eye on how much memory I have left on that medium at all times? Thanks again for all the help.
  6. Elevatorguy thread starter macrumors newbie

    Nov 28, 2008
    Another point of confusion...when I first open the link to the files on the desktop after connecting the camcorder the first folder is named PRIVATE. What is this for and do I need to do anything with it? Thanks
  7. gpeden macrumors regular

    Nov 24, 2007
    Hi there,

    Inside "private" is a folder named "AVCHD", Drag that one over to the disc image you've created and save it. When you mount the disk image with the file named "AVCHD" inside and intact, iMovie 08 or FCE 4.01 will recognize it as a camera, uh, if you are using an Intel Mac :)



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