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iPhone Can't believe i'm saying this, but... I left IOS 7 Jailbroken for a BETA!

It doesn't matter how solid or not 7.1.2 is in itself because iOS 8 is more refined and refreshing in UI no matter what.
The difference between 7.0 and 7.1 was huge and going backward was impossible because it was a downgrade in experience. 7.0 just felt worse.
Going back to 7.1.2 from the iOS 8 beta also makes me feel like my phone is less solid.
And 7.1.2 is even worse on iPad with messed up multitasking, rotation screwing with the pages, dynamic wallpapers being cut off, App Store locking up, and other problems that weren't fixed in 7.1.
 
antiprotest said:
oh wait, it is surprising that we who presumably possess the intellectual capacity for hypothetical thought needs to make this irrelevant point.

"if i buy the ford explorer 2018, i will wash it once in a while." one can make this statement while the 2018 does not yet exist.

"if i jailbreak ios 60, i will tell this forum about it." this is a legitimate statement even when ios 60 does not exist yet and even when i do not know if there will be a ios 60 or if this forum will still exist by then.

If he indeed junked ios 7 by the jailbreak then he might junk ios 8 too if he jailbreaks it (when and if a jailbreak for ios 8 becomes available, a point that is assumed but does not need to be stated explicitly). The principle or hypothetical scenario applies fully even when there is no jailbreak available for ios 8.
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DoctorKrabs said:
It doesn't matter how solid or not 7.1.2 is in itself because iOS 8 is more refined and refreshing in UI no matter what.
The difference between 7.0 and 7.1 was huge and going backward was impossible because it was a downgrade in experience. 7.0 just felt worse.
Going back to 7.1.2 from the iOS 8 beta also makes me feel like my phone is less solid.
And 7.1.2 is even worse on iPad with messed up multitasking, rotation screwing with the pages, dynamic wallpapers being cut off, App Store locking up, and other problems that weren't fixed in 7.1.
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finally someone understands my point of view! i agree with everything accept 7.0.x not being as quick as 7.1.x. for me it was the opposite. but yeah all of the annoying problems in 7.1.2 got fixed for me when i updated to beta 4.
 
aPple nErd said:
finally someone understands my point of view! i agree with everything accept 7.0.x not being as quick as 7.1.x. for me it was the opposite. but yeah all of the annoying problems in 7.1.2 got fixed for me when i updated to beta 4.
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Then run beta 4 and shut up for God's sake! No one except for the equally delusional DoctorKrabs agrees with you. Everyone else knows that iOS 7.1.x is a lot better than 7.0.x.

In Spanish: todo el mundo conoce que iOS 7.1.x es más bueno que iOS 7.0.x.
 
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matthew2926 said:
Then run beta 4 and shut up for God's sake! No one except for the equally delusional DoctorKrabs agrees with you. Everyone else knows that iOS 7.1.x is a lot better than 7.0.x.

In Spanish: todo el mundo conoce que iOS 7.1.x es más bueno que iOS 7.0.x.
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How is what I said delusional? I said that 7.1 was an improvement, and that 8.0 is a bigger improvement.
And I also said I was talking only in terms of UI polish and the "feel"
 
DoctorKrabs said:
How is what I said delusional? I said that 7.1 was an improvement, and that 8.0 is a bigger improvement.
And I also said I was talking only in terms of UI polish and the "feel"
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Oh, feel, gotcha. I thought that you were trying to say that the iOS 8 betas are more solid than 7.1.2 in terms of bugs and the like.
 
DoctorKrabs said:
How is what I said delusional? I said that 7.1 was an improvement, and that 8.0 is a bigger improvement.
And I also said I was talking only in terms of UI polish and the "feel"
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"feel" is worse when you get springboard resprings, apps that don't work, and bugs that weren't in the previous release.

either you're delusional or in the extreme minority of people that majestically have an iOS 8 beta device that runs smoother than 7.1.x

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if you're talking about the improvement "feel" of the addition of new features (like the improvements to notification center, messaging, multitasking, etc)--then that's a different conversation and what you're saying makes sense.

OP made this thread about stability. you're talking about UI
 
joejoejoe said:
"feel" is worse when you get springboard resprings, apps that don't work, and bugs that weren't in the previous release.

either you're delusional or in the extreme minority of people that majestically have an iOS 8 beta device that runs smoother than 7.1.x

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if you're talking about the improvement "feel" of the addition of new features (like the improvements to notification center, messaging, multitasking, etc)--then that's a different conversation and what you're saying makes sense.

OP made this thread about stability. you're talking about UI
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OP is not talking about just stability, but also "bugs and glitches"

Here's a bug in 7.1.2 that's not in iOS 8 beta: http://t.co/ukROqQLyuB

In iOS 7.1.2, go to the app switcher and close an app. Now scroll to the last app in the far right. When you keep scrolling beyond the last app, it will jump back to the middle abruptly since it thinks there's still an app there.

That's fixed in iOS 8.

In iOS 7.1.2, open an app. Then go to the app switcher and close out of the app you were just in. Watch the status bar appear when it isn't supposed to.

That's fixed in iOS 8.

iOS 8 also increases the speed of the animations for multitasking. It fixes the bugs that annoyed me the most since iOS 7 came out in the half baked form that it was in on launch day.
 
DoctorKrabs said:
OP is not talking about just stability, but also "bugs and glitches"

Here's a bug in 7.1.2 that's not in iOS 8 beta: http://t.co/ukROqQLyuB

In iOS 7.1.2, go to the app switcher and close an app. Now scroll to the last app in the far right. When you keep scrolling beyond the last app, it will jump back to the middle abruptly since it thinks there's still an app there.
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Odd, i don't have that problem. Nor do the two people next to me in the office.

DoctorKrabs said:
iOS 8 also increases the speed of the animations for multitasking. It fixes the bugs that annoyed me the most since iOS 7 came out in the half baked form that it was in on launch day.
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Seriously though, what other bugs? The status bar showing up in multitasking after quiting the app you just opened is such a specific and small problem it hardly gets in the way of "feel" which the OP keeps mentioning. Speed of animations does, sure. But the amount of bugs in the beta and instability surely affect day to day feel. I don't know why your 7.1.x device was having so many problems, but the concensus of the forum here is that most people experience far more bugs in the beta than the public release, which makes sense.
 
joejoejoe said:
Seriously though, what other bugs? The status bar showing up in multitasking after quiting the app you just opened is such a specific and small problem it hardly gets in the way of "feel" which the OP keeps mentioning. Speed of animations does, sure. But the amount of bugs in the beta and instability surely affect day to day feel. I don't know why your 7.1.x device was having so many problems, but the concensus of the forum here is that most people experience far more bugs in the beta than the public release, which makes sense.
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Seriously, this is exactly what feel means, those little quirks few even notice. Thats what separates android and ios, windows and mac.

I recently started a thread about exactly this but its hard to get valid responses and input from people who just dont notice those little things. For you, something either works or dont, for others its important how good things work.

And that bug with multitasking - closing an app and scrolling to the last one - its real and it exists on every ios7 device, you just dont notice it, you dont 'feel' it. Youre lucky imo, youre easier to satisfy, those little things and unpolished, unsolid feel bothers me
 
joejoejoe said:
Odd, i don't have that problem. Nor do the two people next to me in the office.
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That picture is not a picture of the bug I described, that's just a different one I had on 7.1.2 that I was able to reproduce any time I wanted, and no longer can on 8.0
 
aPple nErd said:
Lol no. 7.1.1, and 7.1.2 are very glitchy and laggy even vanilla. First of all, the lock screen should not take 10 seconds to show up. And second of all, if my device is locked and i press the home button to wake it up. It should wake it up. Not access siri. And also... It shouldnt get stuck between homescreen pages. I had these problems using vanilla, so no its not due to the jailbreak its just that 7.1.1-7.1.2 is crap.
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:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
beosound3200 said:
And that bug with multitasking - closing an app and scrolling to the last one - its real and it exists on every ios7 device, you just dont notice it, you dont 'feel' it. Youre lucky imo, youre easier to satisfy, those little things and unpolished, unsolid feel bothers me
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Not on the four devices in my house.
 
beosound3200 said:
Seriously, this is exactly what feel means, those little quirks few even notice. Thats what separates android and ios, windows and mac.

I recently started a thread about exactly this but its hard to get valid responses and input from people who just dont notice those little things. For you, something either works or dont, for others its important how good things work.

And that bug with multitasking - closing an app and scrolling to the last one - its real and it exists on every ios7 device, you just dont notice it, you dont 'feel' it. Youre lucky imo, youre easier to satisfy, those little things and unpolished, unsolid feel bothers me
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This! Why should i be completely happy with an operating system (iOS 6) and then an update comes and i end up completely hating it. IOS 7 is when i REALLY got serious with jailbreaking because ever since 7.0 came out, things don't seem complete, or as solid as i'd like them to. Now i know people will tell me "nothing's wrong. Get an android if you don't like the iPhone" Well i'm so invested into the apple ecosystem that it wouldn't make sense. But yes! i notice little things that most people don't and thats my issue. I can tell when an animation isn't working right, or a graphics glitch is happening. And it seems as though 7.1 has made it even worse than 7.0.
 
Slightly Off-Topic

If I have the iOS 8 beta installed, will I be able to download the iOS 8 public version, or will I be stuck on the GM? I realize they are basically the same thing(the public release and the GM), just a random question.
 
helicopter96 said:
If I have the iOS 8 beta installed, will I be able to download the iOS 8 public version, or will I be stuck on the GM? I realize they are basically the same thing(the public release and the GM), just a random question.
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You will not be able to update to GM. You have to restore as soon as the GM is out since you will be moving back from the Beta to the public stream.
 
I was thinking of installing iOS 8 beta (I already have Yosemite installed on my MBP). Today I took a picture to send one of my friends. The whole phone got frozen and I had to do a hard-reset (or what ever it is being called). Gave up the idea of installing a beta from a company who ships buggy software as public releases.
 
aPple nErd said:
It's alot more stable. I'm sick of 7.1.X problems. It's a junk OS.
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WHAT ? I don't know what to say... :confused:

I can qualify iOS 8 of many things, but the word "stable" is so far away on the list that it's not even the last thing that comes to mind. It doesn't come to mind at all.
 
MacMan988 said:
I was thinking of installing iOS 8 beta (I already have Yosemite installed on my MBP). Today I took a picture to send one of my friends. The whole phone got frozen and I had to do a hard-reset (or what ever it is being called). Gave up the idea of installing a beta from a company who ships buggy software as public releases.
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So why don't you switch to a company that doesn't ship buggy software as public releases?
 
Tubamajuba said:
So why don't you switch to a company that doesn't ship buggy software as public releases?
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I will answer for that guy :

The ferocious competition out there forces everyone to add new features ASAP and to rush their releases without doing proper QA. Apple's probably the best option still.
 
MacMan988 said:
I was thinking of installing iOS 8 beta (I already have Yosemite installed on my MBP). Today I took a picture to send one of my friends. The whole phone got frozen and I had to do a hard-reset (or what ever it is being called). Gave up the idea of installing a beta from a company who ships buggy software as public releases.
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Unfortunately you're not going to find one that is completely bug free, but I think iOS usability has taken a nosedive for a number of reasons, yours included. I'm curious, what phone/version iOS do you have and are there any other third party camera apps? I assume you were using the native camera app. Also, do you close your apps and periodically reset your phone? I find that greatly increases stability for me. And I don't want to hear that's not necessary from anyone. ;) Like any OS, I believe most of iOS instability is caused by third-party apps.
 
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