Can't Boot Snow Leopard, Ubuntu, or Win 7

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  1. Bagellord macrumors newbie

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    I have an Intel iMac 8,1, the 24 inch model, C2D 3GHz with 4gb RAM. I have Snow Leopard and Windows 7 via bootcamp loaded. I locked up in Windows while doing something stupid, and was forced to cut the power. Ever since then, I have been unable to boot either operating system properly.

    I can boot into Safe Mode in OS X, but cannot access my Windows Partition. I have been trying to desperately trying to access my Windows partition to back it up but with no success. I cannot even boot from a Ubuntu Live CD, which leads me to believe something may be horribly wrong with the computer. Any suggestions on how I can get it to boot properly?
     
  2. Bagellord thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Update, I can boot normally into Snow Leopard, it just takes forever. Now I cannot mount my Windows volume. Any ideas? I have NTFS-3G installed if that would affect anything.
     
  3. toolbox macrumors 68020

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    Can you run disk utility verify the disk and disk permissions - If necessary repair the disk.
     
  4. Bagellord thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I tried that. It fixed it to where I could boot OS X but it won't work on Windows. Perhaps I can boot into Ubuntu and try to get it to work some magic. I just wish I could take the darn hard drive out and slap it in an enclosure and get the data.

    I tried booting in target disk mode, which worked sort of. It kept doing wonky stuff. Maybe now that I've got it booting it will work the right way?
     
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  6. Bagellord thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Pretty much. I feel like I need to do a reinstall but it works.
     
  7. madog macrumors 65816

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    When using NTFS 3G on an external drive, if the volume is not ejected properly it will **** it up (to put it bluntly). I believe the only way to fix the file system is to plug the NTFS volume into a Windows machine and eject it properly assuming the file system didn't get completely hosed in the process (possible, but not likely). This is a problem with NTFS in general, but due to it not being native to Mac OS X it is more likely to happen when using it. It can happen to an NTFS flash drive in Windows (as that is more likely to be ejected improperly), however, I guess you could say Windows knows it's a problem and handles it better these days.

    I do not know if this same issue would apply to BootCamp, but it sounds like it was at least the cause of your problems.
     
  8. Bagellord thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Well I just got out of bed and for fun tried to mount the Windows volume (it wouldn't mount at all yesterday), and it worked. I'm in the process of backing up the important stuff before I totally wipe the computer and start over.
     
  9. Bagellord thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Well it randomly unmounted the drive with an error. I'm trying to boot from my Windows disk so I can try to repair the Windows installation, but not having a whole lot of luck. Now when I hold option to select the boot device the hard drive partitions don't even show up.

    <rant>
    I don't mean to flame or insult anyone, but good god I am so sick of this computer. I never should have bought it. I can't take it apart and put the hard drive in an enclosure or anything like that. I am never buying an Apple desktop again because of this BS. "It just works" my a$$.
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  10. Bagellord thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Sigh, yet another update.

    I think I'm toast. I'm probably going to have to send it off to Apple to have them fix it. Words cannot describe how angry I am right now. I may just have it fixed under warranty and sell it and build an entirely Windows based PC.

    Just so you know, I know computers pretty darn well and alarm bells come up for me when I can't even boot a Linux Live CD. I have a Time Machine backup of the OS X side and most of the important stuff from Windows. I am so unhappy right now.
     
  11. Bagellord thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I'm about ready to start throwing things. I slapped my Snow Leopard DVD in for fun, went into disk utility, and see both partitions. Now I'm trying to verify and repair the disk and the permissions to see if it will help. I simply don't understand this. I hope it works. Every time I tried this before off of the disk it just sat there with the little status bar doing the fast move stuff and never actually accomplished anything.
     
  12. Bagellord thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Ok, I am open for suggestions as to what to do. Any ideas anyone?
     
  13. Bagellord thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Yet another, and probably final update. After spending several painstaking hours trying to fix the partition and get it working I was able to mount it in OS X and copy the files I needed. I am going to start from scratch and set up everything all over again. I need to allocate some space on my external for Windows to back up to I suppose.
     
  14. madog macrumors 65816

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    Because it's not easy to take out the drive on current iMacs, I will probably never get one. Having to use suction cups to get inside the machine is a nightmare for techs (extremely easy to damage the nice screen/glass too).

    Anyway, you can't truly blame Apple for:
    While it is possible to install Windows, they can't really be blamed for user error, and potential damage caused by using other OS's or third party system mods like NTFS3G (if that did have anything to do with it).

     
  15. Bagellord thread starter macrumors newbie

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    You're right, I was just angry, to say the least. My biggest gripe was not being able to get to the hard drive. I just had a rough week and this was the icing on the cake. It was just infuriating.
     
  16. BlueRevolution macrumors 603

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    I actually found it to be a remarkably straightforward process, but I can see how someone less careful than yours truly could run into trouble.
     
  17. madog macrumors 65816

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    That's coming from a guy who has 3 Macs taken apart in his room. The process itself isn't too difficult, I just don't trust suction cups at all! I've never seen one that could hold a coat or a sponge for longer than 30 seconds, and I wouldn't trust them holding up an $800 (from Apple) LCD panel. I just see them coming loose and the panel falling to the ground and shattering into a million pieces, regardless of how careful I am trying to be.

    Then again, I suppose that would be easier in a way than the late G5/early Intel iMacs. Can take me five minutes or an hour to hit the release tabs in the vent. P.I.T.A.

    It happens to us all, and I know how you feel. Hang in there!
     
  18. KingYaba macrumors 68040

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    Is this a hard drive failure? Or did you just corrupt your Windows install?
     
  19. BlueRevolution macrumors 603

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    I only have one! :D

    Use the bathroom kind with hooks that fold back on themselves. They can hold quite a bit of weight.

    The panel is attached to the body with about a dozen Torx screws. The suction cup is only to remove the Plexiglas sheet covering the display. (It feels like Plexiglas, anyway. It's definitely not glass.)

    Pretty hard to break Plexiglas, and they're super light too. You just need to unseat the shield at the top, allowing you to grab it at the top and pull it off. The suction cup never actually bears any weight.
     

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