really, so if i decide to upload a theme to a repository, whose going to stop me? i could have done it without telling you guys. also, if it gets rejected, i can upload it to the sin repo, (you know what thats short for). they accept everything.
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Can't find illumine theme in cydia
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Penguissimo
macrumors 6502a
Well, the author of the theme probably won't be thrilled to hear that people are uploading it without his permission, especially when he's specifically said that it's available for private download only. Will he physically throw himself between your finger and the mouse to prevent you from uploading it? Probably not.
"whose (sic) going to stop me", "i could have done it without telling you guys" and "i can upload it to that pirate source that I'm always telling people not to mention" miss the point to an almost hilariously ridiculous degree. The issue here isn't whether lightning will strike you down before you can start the upload; it's about respect for intellectual property and the wishes of a developer.
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lol
I was looking for the illumine theme too because i had it a while ago and wanted to add it to a friend's phone; I found this thread as a google result and I must say the above post it the funniest $H|T I've read all day...
respect IP and wishes of the creator you say?!?!?... hmmm... last i checked apple didn't want people jailbreaking their phones and installing 3rd party apps, maybe we should all just go ahead and restore our phones to stock, yeah the first guy was a douche but you looked like an even bigger one for trying to get on a little soapbox and rise above him
as for the illumine creator, if he wants to get paid why not setup something with cydia store... oh wait, that would make too much sense
Penguissimo
macrumors 6502a
Uh, ok. What exactly is your argument here? "Apple don't want us jailbreaking our phones, so we should feel free to steal the work of independent developers"? Jailbreaking an iPhone is a little different from offering, for free, a piece of software that the creator specifically requests payment for. If you don't see the difference, there isn't much point in taking this discussion any further.
Secondly, since you found this thread "as a google result" and felt the need to register for this board simply so you could outline the Official IM IN UR IPHONE Hierarchy Of Who Is A Bigger Douche™, you're obviously unaware of the background here. The (14-year-old) poster I was responding to had a long history of shrieking "discussion of piracy is not allowed here!!" even when nobody had mentioned piracy; then in this thread he decided to post software developed by an individual who specifically released it as pay software. If it had been any other random poster or any other situation, I wouldn't have bothered to respond, but in this case his hypocrisy was so blatant that it was worth bringing up.
Hope you feel good about yourself for dragging up this ancient thread to make...well, whatever your point was supposed to be 🙄
pixelated
macrumors 6502a
So you are equating the treatment of a single theme developer to a worldwide corporation?
now thats funny!
Penguissimo
macrumors 6502a
Not to mention the fact that pirating a theme has financial implications for the developer, while the same can't be said of jailbreaking an iPhone (unless you do that to enable piracy of App Store apps, but even then that's a secondary issue).
Sure, you can make the argument that "piracy doesn't really cause lost revenue", but that's A) a debatable topic and B) not even slightly applicable to jailbreaking.
Really not sure what this new guy's point is 🙄
if you missed my point then, sadly I think we can go ahead and diagnose you with having cataracts or some other sort of disease that hinders your vision horribly.
I even underlined it for you, the argument is:
you said people should respect intellectual property and the developer's wishes... which, by jailbreaking, none of us are doing. It doesn't matter if one is jailbreaking to use legitimate free apps or even worse, to use the sources that have pirated software, <penguinissimo's soapbox> you're violating IP and the developer's [apple] wishes </penguinissimo's soapbox>
secondly, you bring up the fact that the other poster has a history of worthless posts and other BS and you manage to cite his age [which makes it even more funny BTW] What does that have to do with anything? If he is truly as bad as you make it out to be, then don't you think by responding you're enabling him in his troll-ish ways? I bet after a while if people just glossed over his BS posts he'd either leave or learn to be a contributing member of this board.
Anyway it was lunch hour and it truly WAS the funniest crap I'd seen, without knowing the history [and it doesn't matter] you were the one that looked like a dummy. What if you just happened to be driving by a neighborhood and you saw some 20-30 something having an argument with a 5 year old in the front yard of the house [blame google for the search result highlighting this thread] over something trivial... no matter how much of a little hellion the 5 year old is, ultimately the "grown up" looks more like a douche
oh so now because it's one developer he deserves more respect for his intellectual property than that of a company that employs hundreds of people to develop a platform?
I suppose you're also one of those people that say it's ok to shoplift from a worldwide corporation like walmart but if someone steals a dollar from you you cry bloody murder 😕
xxBURT0Nxx
macrumors 68020
you my friend, are a retard.....
jailbreaking a phone and pirating software are 2 completely different things. jailbreaking is NOT stealing from apple, pirating a theme from a developer IS stealing.
perhaps you are the one with cataracts?
his original argument was that it wasn't respecting the wishes of the developer... then you guys threw the pirating in there
besides.. jailbreaking IS stealing to some extent even with legit free apps...
do you have free ringtones through cydia? well that's revenue that apple isn't getting, because by jailbreaking and violating their wishes you don't have to buy the ringtones from them
do you maybe have PDAnet installed so you can tether?... you guessed it stealing revenue
the list pretty long if you think about it
xxBURT0Nxx
macrumors 68020
ok let's have some fun...
he said that pcs are junk was not respecting the wishes of the developer (to pay for the theme "illumine" via paypal and d/l it privately) not sure when you think we "threw" the pirating in there, as that was the original point? The dev doesn't want people pirating his work, so he took it off of cydia and wants it to be available via private download only. pcs are junk decided not to respect the wishes of the dev and post it on cydia anyways, allowing people to "steal" the theme. By me jailbreaking my iPhone I have not stolen anything... I just gave myself more access to my phone. Have you even read the thread before spewing out of your mouth?
Nope, don't have free ringtones through cydia. I have been using a website for years to get my ringtones (formerly smashthetones.com) and it works just fine, oh and you don't even have to have a jailbroken phone to use the ringtones, so I guess your argument here is useless. And by the way, it is NOT stealing to put a ringtone on the phone, apple just charges you $0.99 to convert your file into a ringtone (.m4a or something I think.) If I can convert that by myself (and there are many ways to do so) it's just fine. You think if I put a CD onto my iPhone that I'm stealing because I didn't buy it from iTunes but from Target instead? Just because something didn't come from apple or itunes does not necessarily mean you stole it..?
And if I installed PDAnet to tether, or MyWi, or any of the other various apps, I'm not stealing from apple. Apple doesn't get any money for tethering your phone. You don't have to d/l any paid apps from the app store to do so, it is all carrier based. So you loose again my friend. the carrier is the one who decides wether or not to allow tethering and wether they want to offer it for free or for a monthly charge. Apple doesn't see increased revenue because I decide to tether, they just simply added the ability for carriers to allow tethering to the native OS. You do realize that pretty much anywhere except the US (due to ATT) you can tether with your iPhone right?
Anything else you'd like to be proven wrong about? Plain and simple jailbreaking is NOT, I repeat NOT, the same as stealing, but whatever helps you sleep at night I guess!
dhlizard
macrumors G4
FLAWED ARGUEMENT !
A stock iPhone (one that is not jailbroken - don't want this response to go over your head 🙄) allows as many ringtones to be added as one wishes. And iTunes allows the conversion of just about any sound file into m4r format.
Now exactly how is Apple losing money on ringtones due to jailbroken phones ??? 😕
Penguissimo
macrumors 6502a
Exactly. Burton here gets it. Why is this so hard for you, IM IN UR IPHONE? When I said that "the wishes of the developer", I was referring to the developer's "wish to be paid for the download of his theme". As I and many others have mentioned, this is a completely separate issue from Apple wishing that people wouldn't jailbreak. It takes a really (and willfully?) ignorant reading of my statement to end up with the equivalence that you're asserting.
i L L U M I N E theme
Heres the .deb theme file for it.
http://69.175.8.58/repofiles/cydia/debs2.0/iprc_illumine_theme_1.0.deb
Heres the .deb theme file for it.
http://69.175.8.58/repofiles/cydia/debs2.0/iprc_illumine_theme_1.0.deb
Phat^Trance
macrumors 6502a
Grayburn
macrumors 68030