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Rokem said:
hmm. good point. lets contact the eff on this.
They already know, so do the content companies. This is what is meant by the "analog hole" (even though in this case it's really a digital hole).

The content companies see this as an acceptable compromise, because once the file is in that form, you are stuck with a much larger file, or need to recompress and lose quality, if you want to redistribute. If the stuff you can offer isn't as good as what they can offer, they are ahead in their book.
 
Chundles said:
Wanna show me another store that allows you to change the format of their DRM music?


I don't care about other stores. I don't care about DRM music.

Here is the situation:

I bought a song.
I want to put it on a CD listen to it in my damn car.
I should be able to do this.


Surely you can understand and empathize with that. I love Apple but this is still ******** and I never would have bought a single track from iTunes if I would have known this.

I revert to my previous post.
 
I just wanted to put this out there, the new program for QTfairuse for windows works pretty nicely. It was released not to long ago and converts songs from protected to unprotected so you can listen to it however you want to. Just tried it out today on a few songs and I must say its working pretty nice. Going to run a few other test on it though and I'm happy somebody is taking the initiative to make it possible to burn mp3 cds to play in your car since iTunes prohibits it with their purchased music. No longer do I have to burn to a CDRW and erase it and delete files.

Windows is good for one thing at least:)
 
SilentPanda said:
Yeah... ummm... aren't we pretty much done here? For some reason it sounds like this is "new" and "interesting" but the iTunes Store has been around how long now? This is like complaing that your CD's won't fit in your casette player at this point.

so... he can vent his rage here

srf4real said:
Audio Hijack Pro. Does it (aiff) on the hard disk without having to burn to cd and reimport as mp3. But I think I had to pay for it a few years ago.? Then you have to re-enter all the song info, but "I know somebody" who has success this way. ;)

yes but thats 69.99, not very practical in this matter though.
 
manosaurus said:
I don't care about other stores. I don't care about DRM music.

Here is the situation:

I bought a song.
I want to put it on a CD listen to it in my damn car.
I should be able to do this.


Surely you can understand and empathize with that. I love Apple but this is still ******** and I never would have bought a single track from iTunes if I would have known this.

I revert to my previous post.

You can put it on a cd for in your damn car. Just burn it to a vanilla audio cd and voilla. No problems at all.

And you really should give google a little bit of a try. It's a great search engine...
 
SilentPanda said:
Yeah... ummm... aren't we pretty much done here? For some reason it sounds like this is "new" and "interesting" but the iTunes Store has been around how long now? This is like complaing that your CD's won't fit in your casette player at this point.


It's new to me and hey man, you know that you don't have to return to this post again if you don't want to, no offense intended.
 
manosaurus said:
I don't care about other stores. I don't care about DRM music.

Here is the situation:

I bought a song.
I want to put it on a CD listen to it in my damn car.
I should be able to do this.


Surely you can understand and empathize with that. I love Apple but this is still ******** and I never would have bought a single track from iTunes if I would have known this.

I revert to my previous post.

So burn it as an audio CD, surely your CD player can handle regular CDs?

Why did you not check the format of iTMS songs before you purchased this new CD player? They are AAC, not mp3. If you ripped a CD to AAC format it wouldn't work either, nor would wma, ogg, flac, ape or anything else. A quick check would've revealed this.

This is like saying "I just bought a house and I'm pissed off because I can't fit my piano through the door. It's reasonable to have a piano inside a house so why can't I fit it through the door?" You should've measured the door before you bought the house.
 
My logic says, $10 for a list of DMS songs that are limited in accessibility, or $16 for a physical disc at the retail chain store, plus gas and aggrivation finding the music I want... I'll deal with the ITMS! Not to mention I don't have to pay for the songs on an album that suck.:)
 
manosaurus said:
It's new to me and hey man, you know that you don't have to return to this post again if you don't want to, no offense intended.

I understand it's new to you... I'm just surprised at the posts here that seem to be up in arms over what most of this community has known about for years.
 
iTunes is great, just don't visit the store. :) I personally have not bought any songs off iTMS, and probably never will. The DRM is just too restrictive for me. Can't even use iVolume on it...

But the convenience of buying single songs from albums is a nice feature if you can live with the DRM, otherwise I would look into sites like allofmp3.com.
 
EricNau said:
Wow, I had no idea iTunes wouldn't let you convert protected songs (although it makes perfect sense).
They also don't let you share your AAC DRM song through iTunes over a local network to a non-authorised computer either. That's the single restriction that got me :mad:.
 
.Andy said:
They also don't let you share your AAC DRM song through iTunes over a local network to a non-authorised computer either. That's the single restriction that got me :mad:.
Ya, I knew about that one, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
 
Chundles said:
This is like saying "I just bought a house and I'm pissed off because I can't fit my piano through the door. It's reasonable to have a piano inside a house so why can't I fit it through the door?" You should've measured the door before you bought the house.

Sorry Chundles, me don't understand analogieses. Thanks for the attempt to insult my intellegence though.

I was just so excited because I got my wife this cd player for her car today and I wanted to put all of her songs on one disc (she doens't want an iPod) so she could have them all in one place. I obviously can't do it so I am a little disappointed.
 
manosaurus said:
Sorry Chundles, me don't understand analogieses. Thanks for the attempt to insult my intellegence though.

I was just so excited because I got my wife this cd player for her car today and I wanted to put all of her songs on one disc (she doens't want an iPod) so she could have them all in one place. I obviously can't do it so I am a little disappointed.

Please. just. google. manosaurus.
 
manosaurus said:
Sorry Chundles, me don't understand analogieses. Thanks for the attempt to insult my intellegence though.

I was just so excited because I got my wife this cd player for her car today and I wanted to put all of her songs on one disc (she doens't want an iPod) so she could have them all in one place. I obviously can't do it so I am a little disappointed.

I wasn't trying to insult your intelligence, sorry if you saw it that way.

I was insulting the decision-making process you used in purchasing the CD player.
 
manosaurus said:
Sorry Chundles, me don't understand analogieses. Thanks for the attempt to insult my intellegence though.

I was just so excited because I got my wife this cd player for her car today and I wanted to put all of her songs on one disc (she doens't want an iPod) so she could have them all in one place. I obviously can't do it so I am a little disappointed.

No offense dude... but maybe you should have taken the time to notice that you weren't purchasing mp3s to begin with. This issue really doesn't have anything to do with DRM, because regardless of DRM, no AACs, protected or not, with play on an 'mp3 CD'.

I'm amazed to see such animosity considering it's entirely your fault that you failed to even notice what file format you were purchasing.

File under 'user error'. :rolleyes:
 
decksnap said:
This issue really doesn't have anything to do with DRM, because regardless of DRM, no AACs, protected or not, with play on an 'mp3 CD'.

iTunes will convert AACs to MP3s for you if you wanna make an MP3 cd. It just won't convert protected AACs.

In other words, this issue does have to do with DRM. If he didn't buy DRM'd songs there would be an easy solution.
 
manosaurus said:
It was my fault that I didn't realize these things. It just seems like something one SHOULD be able to do quite easily and you know it. You all probably were pissed to when you found this stuff out about protected AAC files and mp3 conversion.

Ok, look. You're right, we all know we SHOULD be able to do it quite easily. We all know we CAN'T due to the DRM restrictions. And yes, we all think it sucks, and we all probably were pissed off when we found out. (Some of us, however, differ in whether we found this stuff out before or after making song purchases.)

You have already been given a work-around solution (burn the AAC's to mp3's and then re-import to mp3).

You have already been told that EVERY online music download service has the exact same restrictions.

So what else is there to rant about? We all agree with you. It SHOULD be possible. Unfortunately thanks to the greedy music studios, it's not. Don't complain about Apple or iTunes because it's not their fault.

Not to insult your intelligence with an analogy again, but it's really like complaining that humans weren't born with wings so we can fly. Complain all you want, but none of us can fix it.
 
notjustjay said:
Not to insult your intelligence with an analogy again, but it's really like complaining that humans weren't born with wings so we can fly. Complain all you want, but none of us can fix it.
Wait a minute:confused:
You guys don't have wings?
 
Um.. sounds to me like you're trying to put too many songs on one CD. sure, itll hold 700 megs of data, but only 80 minutes of music.

Also, Ive burned songs I bought onto a CD, and played them in every single CD player I own (Even the one in my 6 year old Car)

Am I just Lucky?
 
he was trying to burn an mp3 cd, not a regular audio cd. But then he apparently got banned for his potty mouth.
 
Out there there is probobly some illegal hack that lets you view all of your songs in a normal folder like yougot them off limewire just like there is a few that get the music off your ipod and back onto your computer I am not supporting breaking the law I am just stating a fact(Am i gonna get banned for this?). However your best possibly getting them from another source. You lready paid to view the file so I don`t think its illegal if you get a mp3 and unprotected version off limewire or anyother file sharing program.


Anyways Your best off getting a iTrip or something, whatever they call it they have like 20 and broadcasting it to a radio station. or buying a new BMW I hear they come with iPod docks.

Oh and by the way not ALL file downloading programs have restrictions just the legal ones. I have used the music I get off limewire for burning normal cds, mp3 cds (they already come in that format most the time), And some type of DVD cd that can hold like quite a few hours or music ( found it in nero tried it , forget what happened.)

Anyways unless your run a illegal file sharing thing that does millions a day the guys who work at those stupid alphabet places (DAA, TTCC, I have no ide thay all just have a bunch of letters) are not going to get the swat team to smash down your door for getting your favorite songs off limewire.
(save yourself 20 bucks too!)
 
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