Can't see past run times on AW, only iPhone?

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  1. satchmo macrumors 68020

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    Was watching this DesFit guy's review on YouTube and he says a dealbreaker could be in the AW's inability to see recent past run times.

    Not sure what version of watchOS, but if this is the case, it seems rather inconvenient to have to look it up on your iPhone. Particularly if you just want to quickly compare your pace with yesterday's run.

    If this is the case, I hope an update in the future will bring 'recent runs' to the AW.
     
  2. MJ22 macrumors regular

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    I’ve been a competitive runner for years and don’t get why this is such a dealbreaker. Most people, at the end of their run, immediately go wherever their phone is—if they didn’t take it with them—and immediately pick it up and check for messages, sync the run to other apps, etc. Even with a Garmin, I would go into the app and look at the map and my splits that way. People are so picky, it’s goofy.
     
  3. xDKP macrumors 65816

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    Exactly the same thought - I often run without my phone but never finish without coming near it and being able to compare runs.

    I would like to get more info/stats/data but that’s actually the iPhone activity app I would like to see expanded - not the watch workout app.
     
  4. deeddawg macrumors 604

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    The Nike+ Run Club app displays past run distances on the watch if you wish.

    In any event, who the heck *doesn't* sync their runs to a web service of some sort?

    I can see where someone might find it annoying to be unable to see prior run distance on the watch, but for that to be a dealbreaker? We're either dealing with a Sheldon Cooper personality or someone is already looking for an excuse to dislike the watch.
     
  5. ftaok macrumors 603

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    Technically, you can see the last distance you ran on the AW.

    Start the workout app on the AW. Click on the (...) 3-dots. Select Distance. The app auto defaults to the last run distance.

    Not great. Not useful. But at least you can see back one run.
     
  6. japanime macrumors 68000

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    The Nike+ Run Club app performance on the Apple Watch (including the Nike+ branded model itself) is so poor, I would actually rather see it have fewer features than more, just so it would hopefully work more smoothly. I've been logging my workouts with Nike+ since the iPod nano/shoe sensor launch. Never has the app been more frustrating to me than right now.

    The Nike+ website has also declined over the years. We used to be able to create and join challenges, see how we compared with other runners compared based on our age and gender, and much more. Today, we get none of that.
     
  7. deeddawg macrumors 604

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    It works perfectly fine (for what it is) on my watch. I also used it for a year on my AW2. I don't carry my phone, so no idea if that has an effect. I also regularly use a Garmin FR235, which is a better running watch, but it sucks as a smart watch. That and the FR235 can't play music to my bluetooth headphones. :)

    What has Nike+ support said in response to your reported issues? http://nikeplus.com/support/
     
  8. japanime macrumors 68000

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    I've reported the multiple issues to both Nike (which refuses to help, saying it's an Apple Watch hardware issue) and Apple (which has given me some support, but has ultimately stated that it's not an Apple Watch warranty issue because it's a third-party app issue).

    Most of the problems tend to manifest themselves when trying to complete long-distance (15K or longer) workouts. That's when the NRC app begins to stutter, stall, and ultimately freeze.

    I do carry my phone with me, but I don't run the NRC app on the phone when it's running on my watch. I've also tried leaving the phone at home, but that hasn't improved the performance on the watch at all.
     
  9. mk313 macrumors 6502a

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    Deeddawg, are you using an Apple Watch Series 3? I’ve been experiencing a lot of issues w Th the Nike run club app since upgrading my Series 2 to Watch os 4. I wonder if the app is just designed to work with he more efficient Series 3 processors and struggles with the less powerful processor on the Series 2. If that’s the case, and the Series 3 works the, I may be upgrading my watch to a newer model.
     
  10. deeddawg macrumors 604

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    I hope you're able to get it worked out. My runs are typically in the under 12km range right now.

    Yes, I'm on the AW3 Nike+. I did a couple runs on my AW2 with the updated NRC app on OS4 and yes, it struggled to get launched but still worked pretty well. Seems to work a lot better on the AW3 though.

    I specifically upgraded for the LTE model's additional memory and the ability to call emergency services if something happened when out on a run. As I've been trying out the LTE using the "three month free" stuff, I honestly find it really nice to be able to use Siri to add a new reminder or list item while I'm out on a run and thinking about stuff. Yeah I know it sounds silly, but you get some good thinking time then.
     
  11. ftaok macrumors 603

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    IMO, the problem with NRC is that Nike is terrible at app design. It could be so much better, even with their draconian views on your data.

    Here's what I wish Nike would do to their app(s).

    1. Allow the AW and the iPhone apps to show when they are connected. So many times I've started my run on the iPhone, but the run doesn't show up on the watch. There's no rhyme or reason as to when it'll work and when it doesn't.

    2. Make it so that when the AW is present, the voiceover should be played on the watch.

    3. Let the AW read elevation data from the phone.

    In reality, I'd be happy if the AW NRC app just acted as a display (with touch butons) for the iPhone app.

    I've given up on NRC. Gonna go with ismoothrun
     
  12. japanime macrumors 68000

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    The first couple of versions of the NRC watch app kind of worked that way, and was much more stable because of it.

    I hadn't heard of that app until now. I've tried many others, but it's been difficult to let go of Nike+, mostly because I've used it for 10 years.
     
  13. ftaok macrumors 603

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    I haven't been using Nike for as long as you ... only about 6 years. Started with my first iPod nano with the footpad and now I'm on NRC with the AW-S2. So I too understand the reluctance to leave and lose all of that data.

    Fortunately, there are ways to get the data from Nike's servers and onto platforms that are more liberal with it. About a year ago, I imported all of my Nike data onto Smashrun.com. It offered a better way to visualize my data. I was still using Nike, but the website sucked and was super slow. Only recently, Nike broke the API that allowed Smashrun to obtain the Nike data, so I set off to research my options.

    I've found two apps that will help me liberate my data from Nike, but I won't lose all of my Nike progress.

    1. RunGap can somehow still obtain data from Nike. I don't know how it's broken for SmashRun, but works for RunGap. I have a theory, but it's more of a guess. And it's irrelevant anyway. I use RunGap after every run to obtain the Nike data and then share it to SmashRun. Everything except elevation comes over. I did pay $2 for a 3-month subscription to their "Swag-Bag" which allows for more export options, however, you can get the data without paying. The $2 allowed me to share with SmashRun more easily.

    2. While I haven't yet bought iSmoothRun ($5), I have done a bunch of research on it. It has an iPhone app as well as a stand-alone AW app. Supposedly, it grabs more data than NRC (cadence, etc.) and can automatically share your runs with SmashRun and NRC as well. For me, this is key. I think my process flow would be as follows.

    a. Run using the iSR iPhone app ... hopefully, the AW app will allow me to keep the iphone in the pocket while I can see my time/distance on the AW.

    b. Finish the run and share the data to SmashRun and NRC.

    This will allow me to keep progressing my NRC goals and badges. Still on Blue.

    Anyways, that's my exit plan for Nike ... although it's not a total exit.
     
  14. japanime macrumors 68000

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    Lots of great info in your post. Thanks! I tried either SmashRun or RunGap (can't remember which) a few months back, but decided moving all that info out from Nike and then into another service (I think I was looking at Strava) seemed to be a bit of a chore. Maybe I should try again.

    I checked out iSmoothRun on the app store this afternoon, but there was a negative review regarding the Watch app. So I might hold off for a bit longer on that.

    Regarding your point about finishing a run and sharing it to NRC, is that even possible? I wish that could be done with the Watch's native workout app. Would make things so much easier, and allow me to continue logging Nike+ miles.

    By the way, 6 years on Nike+ is impressive! I feel like all of us who used the original iPod/shoe sensor kit know how amazing the system originally was (and hopefully will be again someday).
     
  15. Bbafett macrumors 6502

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    I use the Apple workout app and an app called Tempo is on my phone. It can read the data from the Apple workout app and it shows my splits, cadence, graphs, hr, and history of all my runs and/or walks. As well as averages. There is a free trial to check it out, and I loved it enough I was fine with doing the $7 or maybe $8 yearly subscription just to have an easy way to see it all as well as support the developer.

    Great simple app.
     

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