OK, i tried a search - and didn't see one, which means NOTHING because i'm rarely successful at searching (it's a joke among friends). I bought a refurb 8gb and received it on Thursday. I loaded it up - manually picking songs, tv shows and apps. I did NOT update to 3.0 yet. Yesterday, my 5yo was playing some Peguin Catapult game and got it locked up - it kept sending me to the select music area (like i'd ever gotten there myself), i couldn't get OUT of there. I tried doing a reset holding the home button down, no go. Then i turn it off - tapping the top button. It then started up asking for my passcode. Let me type it, and showed the dots for the numbers, but didn't unlock. I turned it off again - and while the squares for the numbers registered me typing them - the dots didn't show up in the squares and nothing would happen. Tried to plug it into my Dad's computer - it told me that the Touch was locked and to unlock it and try it again. Since i was at my parents and only 30 minutes from the Apple store, i jumped in the car. The Genius did his magic restore on it for me, and i restored it when i got home. I've been adding apps a few at a time to keep my "sorting" down (because, sorting apps sucks compared to my Palm based Treo). Except now, i can't select apps.... everything is grayed out. I'm actually going to ASSume that the "crash" yesterday has nothing to do with this problem, but i could be wrong, so that is why i shared it. I'm running iTunes 8.1 under Tiger on an Intel Mac. Can i fix this? guess i should reboot the computer - or at least quit iTunes and see if that helps.... oh wait, iTunes crashed earlier and this was a "restart" from those buttons. Nope, no change quitting and starting over. OK, i'm going to go quit and save everything and reboot... hopefully i'll come back and it will work and i can update this. ETA: The reboot did nothing.... choices still gray on the apps, but there for everything else.