Can’t set video output to Dolby Vision 60hz?

[bopajuice]

There’s no such thing as a hdmi 2.0 cable, nor one that is certified for Dolby Vision. The cables I have work with HDR and Dolby Vision just fine, but as another poster pointed out, my TV doesn’t support 60hz Dolby Vision

Your information is wrong.

2.0 for 4K
With the TV industry moving inexorably toward Ultra HD "4K," it was clear there needed to be more bandwidth in the connection to handle the future's higher resolutions and frame rates. On that front, HDMI 2.0 delivers, supporting "4K" (2160p by the Forum's explanation) up to 60fps. This allows for full-resolution 4K 3D, along with higher-frame-rate 2D content, like (potentially) home videos and computer games (PC, not PS4/Xbox One). Since almost all movies are shot at 24fps, this increase is less important for feature films or scripted TV shows.

 

[Jamie0003]

It may be setting it to 24Hz that fixed the clipping. As you might imagine, if you have a cable that can't handle 4:2:2 @ 4K 60HZ with HDR, then it might work just fine as you dial back the settings.

When the Oppo 203 launched, the UI that first loads was 4K@60Hz (with color details variable per display). A lot of people's gear couldn't handle that screen, the but they played the actual content at 24p just fine.

What would be the best option to choose? Since we don’t have the option of letting the Apple TV choose for us which is odd... And why doesn’t the B6 oled support DV at 60hz? You’d think for a £2000 TV it would support anything
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Your information is wrong.

2.0 for 4K
With the TV industry moving inexorably toward Ultra HD "4K," it was clear there needed to be more bandwidth in the connection to handle the future's higher resolutions and frame rates. On that front, HDMI 2.0 delivers, supporting "4K" (2160p by the Forum's explanation) up to 60fps. This allows for full-resolution 4K 3D, along with higher-frame-rate 2D content, like (potentially) home videos and computer games (PC, not PS4/Xbox One). Since almost all movies are shot at 24fps, this increase is less important for feature films or scripted TV shows.

There’s no such thing as a hdmi 2.0 cable. It’s either high speed or not, with high speed with Ethernet being the best you can buy. My cables about a year old and they work fine, and not being able to pick Dolby Vision 60hz is a limitation of my TV, not the cable. It does hdr 10 60hz just fine. Nothing about what you’ve linked me to here says anything about the cable, it’s talking about the connector

 

[bopajuice]

What would be the best option to choose? Since we don’t have the option of letting the Apple TV choose for us which is odd... And why doesn’t the B6 oled support DV at 60hz? You’d think for a £2000 TV it would support anything
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There’s no such thing as a hdmi 2.0 cable. It’s either high speed or not, with high speed with Ethernet being the best you can buy. My cables about a year old and they work fine

You are misinformed. There is a difference. Not all cables are the same.

https://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/note-about-hdmi-2.htm

 

[bobbba]

Looks like the 2016 LG OLED TV's don't do Dolby Vision at 60hz:

https://www.change.org/p/lg-electro...vision-mass-effect-andromeda-is-dolby-vision/

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Looks like the 2016 LG OLED TV's don't do Dolby Vision at 60hz:

https://www.change.org/p/lg-electro...vision-mass-effect-andromeda-is-dolby-vision/

That isn’t really the point though, and a diversion tactic used by some (not saying you) on these forums.

The fact is that nobody has authored/produced a move at 60Hz with Dolby Vision. The is currently one HDR movie available at 60Hz which is Billy Lynn. Whilst I think it works for that movie many more people don’t like it at all.

Apple forcing to change the refresh rate on media is silly and unnecessary. Sure by all means run the UI at the highest speed possible but let’s be clear HDR in whatever flavour isn’t required for the UI. So forcing all material regardless of how it has been produced in a one particular format is simply ridiculous.

It’s a source, a good source doesn’t interfere with stuff like this. If you want fake hdr any hdr compliant tv can do that.

 

[Macrecon]

That isn’t really the point though, and a diversion tactic used by some (not saying you) on these forums.

The fact is that nobody has authored/produced a move at 60Hz with Dolby Vision. The is currently one HDR movie available at 60Hz which is Billy Lynn. Whilst I think it works for that movie many more people don’t like it at all.

Apple forcing to change the refresh rate on media is silly and unnecessary. Sure by all means run the UI at the highest speed possible but let’s be clear HDR in whatever flavour isn’t required for the UI. So forcing all material regardless of how it has been produced in a one particular format is simply ridiculous.

It’s a source, a good source doesn’t interfere with stuff like this. If you want fake hdr any hdr compliant tv can do that.

Exactly. Apple is taking a shortcut and going from a standard. A standard where the output is set so that the content is played optimally. Pure laziness and arrogance towards thousands of owners who just want a device with some sense in it. Apparently making an auto mode is to much for apple.
They say it ruins the experience therefore they opted for a set mode. But what is then having to “manually” change modes depending on content, kind of experience then?.

 

[luy]

I have a LG B6 as well. So what's the best 4k SDR option for viewing non HDR/DV content like live sports on the PSVUE?

4k SDR 60HZ?

Unfortunately it depends on Content and the App. Some might be in 50hz, some in 60hz, and some in 24hz.
To make it clear: I guess u might have to switch settings depending on what u watch, if u want the best possible picture quality.

 

[Jamie0003]

Unfortunately it depends on Content and the App. Some might be in 50hz, some in 60hz, and some in 24hz.
To make it clear: I guess u might have to switch settings depending on what u watch, if u want the best possible picture quality.

Is this in general as I personally only watch stuff on my Apple TV, have no interest in iOS games and the like, I thought all movies and tv shows are shot at 24 hz which should mean that’s the best option for video content?
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You are misinformed. There is a difference. Not all cables are the same.

https://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/note-about-hdmi-2.htm

In any case the cables I have are fine, it can do whatever hdr mode and refresh rate I want with no quality issues; it was trumotion that was messing things up. The bigger issue is the fact the Apple TV goes with a set resolution and HDR mode regardless of what you’re watching

 

[cyb3rdud3]

No not all movies and tv shows are shot at 24Hz...Especially not normal TV....

 

[luy]

Is this in general as I personally only watch stuff on my Apple TV, have no interest in iOS games and the like, I thought all movies and tv shows are shot at 24 hz which should mean that’s the best option for video content?

Most movies and tv shows in iTunes are at 24hz (to be exact its 23,976), but not all of them. Of course right now 24hz is still the best option. But there are some tv shows and documentaries that are in 50hz or 60hz and those gonna look really bad in 24hz.

 

[Packers1958]

No not all movies and tv shows are shot at 24Hz...Especially not normal TV....

Virtually all tv shows are shot at 24fps. When you buy them on blu ray, they are mastered at their 24fps framerate.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Virtually all tv shows are shot at 24fps. When you buy them on blu ray, they are mastered at their 24fps framerate.

When they are broadcast they aren’t done so at 24fps as that is not a broadcast standard. Hence the vast majority is not filmed at at 24fps at all.

 

[Bokes]

I'm sorry, I actually realised that for some reason my TV had turned on the trumotion setting which really messes with the picture. Turning that off and setting the Apple TV to dolby vision 24hz it looks great, no clipping.

I had the same issue.
I checked settings and suddenly I have a Dolby Vision setting for light/dark/vivid.
It was set to vivid by default- looked really bad.
True motion was also switched to smooth.

Changed both settings- DV to dark and Motion Off

Looks good.

(Side note- Arrival’s 4K file is really messed up on iTunes.)

 

[Jamie0003]

I had the same issue.
I checked settings and suddenly I have a Dolby Vision setting for light/dark/vivid.
It was set to vivid by default- looked really bad.
True motion was also switched to smooth.

Changed both settings- DV to dark and Motion Off

Looks good.

(Side note- Arrival’s 4K file is really messed up on iTunes.)

The software is pretty buggy on the new Apple TV too I find, very delayed and sometimes freezes for a few seconds. Anyone else had this issue? Wondering if I have a faulty one... the Apple remote is even worse

 

[pendlebum]

The software is pretty buggy on the new Apple TV too I find, very delayed and sometimes freezes for a few seconds. Anyone else had this issue? Wondering if I have a faulty one... the Apple remote is even worse

Yeah I’ve noticed that too - had to unplug and restart a few times now. Unusual for Apple stuff, in my experience anyway.
Matt

 

[Jamie0003]

Yeah I’ve noticed that too - had to unplug and restart a few times now. Unusual for Apple stuff, in my experience anyway.
Matt

Hopefully just niggles. There’s a lot to be desired still on this device so I hope updates are coming (Atmos support, supporting the codec for YouTube 4K and an auto resolution switching mode).

 

[Donfor39]

Your information is wrong.

2.0 for 4K
With the TV industry moving inexorably toward Ultra HD "4K," it was clear there needed to be more bandwidth in the connection to handle the future's higher resolutions and frame rates. On that front, HDMI 2.0 delivers, supporting "4K" (2160p by the Forum's explanation) up to 60fps. This allows for full-resolution 4K 3D, along with higher-frame-rate 2D content, like (potentially) home videos and computer games (PC, not PS4/Xbox One). Since almost all movies are shot at 24fps, this increase is less important for feature films or scripted TV shows.

2160p is my Sony non hdr t.v. Setting-also my skyq UHD setting.

It’s the best I can get before I purchase Apple 4k t.v.

Hope my non hdr t.v. Isn’t too much of a problem.

From what I have read from t.v. Specs I should be able to get SDR.

 

[cube]

Your information is wrong.

2.0 for 4K
With the TV industry moving inexorably toward Ultra HD "4K," it was clear there needed to be more bandwidth in the connection to handle the future's higher resolutions and frame rates. On that front, HDMI 2.0 delivers, supporting "4K" (2160p by the Forum's explanation) up to 60fps. This allows for full-resolution 4K 3D, along with higher-frame-rate 2D content, like (potentially) home videos and computer games (PC, not PS4/Xbox One). Since almost all movies are shot at 24fps, this increase is less important for feature films or scripted TV shows.

HDMI 2.0 is barely acceptable for 4K 2D 60Hz, let alone 3D.

It would be OK for 4K 3D 24p (Blu Ray 3D frame rate).

 

[Oledlover]

Will Dolby Vision content play in HDR10 on ATV?

Yes

 

[benji888]

Will Dolby Vision content play in HDR10 on ATV?

are you asking about the ATV 4K or the non-4K ATV?

Yep.

If not HDR10 specifically it is taking the DV signal and passing it through the HDR output.

If you're talking about the ATV 4K, yes, any DV content will have HDR10 as a base and, if one has an HDR compatible TV but not DV compatible, it should play in HDR.

If Spankey is asking about HDR (DV or HDR10) will play on the non-4K ATV, the answer is no.
[doublepost=1506272549][/doublepost]I would like to retract from my previous statements about cables.

Apple recommends a "DV certified" HDMI cable...however, HDMI Premium certified will guarantee the full bandwidth going through that cable. Without that certification, it will be hit or miss. https://www.hdmi.org/manufacturer/premiumcable/faq.aspx

Some people have solved issues with a new cable, some have had to change a setting on their TV.

This isn't like the old days, one color standard, get a CRT TV, hook it up and you're ready to go. Those days are gone.

 

[scoresman]

That isn’t really the point though, and a diversion tactic used by some (not saying you) on these forums.

The fact is that nobody has authored/produced a move at 60Hz with Dolby Vision. The is currently one HDR movie available at 60Hz which is Billy Lynn. Whilst I think it works for that movie many more people don’t like it at all.

Apple forcing to change the refresh rate on media is silly and unnecessary. Sure by all means run the UI at the highest speed possible but let’s be clear HDR in whatever flavour isn’t required for the UI. So forcing all material regardless of how it has been produced in a one particular format is simply ridiculous.

It’s a source, a good source doesn’t interfere with stuff like this. If you want fake hdr any hdr compliant tv can do that.

[doublepost=1509200085][/doublepost]Maybe this will help. This has been driving me crazy as well. I've got a 2016 LG LED TV (75UH8500), and Dolby Vision 60HZ is not an option in the Apple TV setup. But maybe this will help. iTunes movies are either 24fps or 30fps (according to Apple). And the Netflix app on the TV outputs Dolby Vision between 25fps and 30fps according to Netflix. LG was useless to speak with. So, I would think Dolby Vision at 60HZ only matters for the Apple TV menus etc. So in theory if you set the Apple TV to 30HZ the iTunes movies should be just fine. Is that correct? If so, my other question would be is it best to set the Apple TV to 30HZ to view movies shot below 30FPS? Basically, is it better/safer to have the HZ higher than the FPS, or does that create other issues?

 

[cyb3rdud3]

[doublepost=1509200085][/doublepost]Maybe this will help. This has been driving me crazy as well. I've got a 2016 LG LED TV (75UH8500), and Dolby Vision 60HZ is not an option in the Apple TV setup. But maybe this will help. iTunes movies are either 24fps or 30fps (according to Apple). And the Netflix app on the TV outputs Dolby Vision between 25fps and 30fps according to Netflix. LG was useless to speak with. So, I would think Dolby Vision at 60HZ only matters for the Apple TV menus etc. So in theory if you set the Apple TV to 30HZ the iTunes movies should be just fine. Is that correct? If so, my other question would be is it best to set the Apple TV to 30HZ to view movies shot below 30FPS? Basically, is it better/safer to have the HZ higher than the FPS, or does that create other issues?

30Hz is only good for movies in 30Hz...Movies in 24Hz require 24Hz and in 25Hz require 25Hz...But then either of those three refresh rates are rubbish when you like a game or another app which should really run at 60Hz....

And that is the point, just auto switch and let the tv handle it Apple....Having to fiddle about with settings each time I'd want to watch something is just not on in 2017.....All other sources can handle this easily...

 

[priitv8]

Why not have everything in 60fps in 2017??
24fps may have been technical limitation in 1917, not today.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Why not have everything in 60fps in 2017??
24fps may have been technical limitation in 1917, not today.

Because that is simply not how source material has been filmed...The only movie available at this moment in time for general release in 60Hz is Billy Lynn. One film - now think about how many films have been shot....

 

[priitv8]

Thats my question - why do they still keep shooting in 24fps?