cant stand aqua

[Backtothemac]

Dude, you can download duality and get rid of the stripes. Seriously, they are not that bad. They give the interface depth. Oh, and scrolling on a celeron. Come on. My Athlon 1400 with 1 gig o ram scrolled no different than my iMac with a gig o Ram. iMac 600 se by the way. With all my MP3's in icon view XP would take longer to generate the folder, would not scroll as well. What are the specs of the systems you are comparing.

 

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by Megaquad

error my ass,i get more errors under os9 then under win98
photoshop runs well on that celeron,at least better then on g3 350 mhz
pc users have myths about macs,but you forget that mac users have more myths about peecees
they dont crash that much,and crashing is not the reason i dont use winblows,i am sad that my pc friend can do so much more on his pc then I on my imac..
not to mention flash mx! it flies on that poor celeron! it is terribly slow on my imac,not to mention flash animation
dont get me wrong,i am still pc guy that switched to mac and is never coming back

Hold on now. As a Network admin of over 400 Macs and 200 PC's, let me just tell you that is pure crap. You may have something wrong with your Mac, but 98 was the buggiest crap ever made. Although Macs outnumber PC's 2 to 1 on our network Macs only account for 5% of the troubleshooting calls, and they run 24 / 7 as apposed to 8 hours a day with the PC's. That is fact.

now, you have an iMac 350 I take it. Running X. How much memory, and what version of X.

 

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by Backtothemac


Hold on now. As a Network admin of over 400 Macs and 200 PC's, let me just tell you that is pure crap. You may have something wrong with your Mac, but 98 was the buggiest crap ever made. Although Macs outnumber PC's 2 to 1 on our network Macs only account for 5% of the troubleshooting calls, and they run 24 / 7 as apposed to 8 hours a day with the PC's. That is fact.

now, you have an iMac 350 I take it. Running X. How much memory, and what version of X.

320 MB pc133/osx 10.1.5

 

[Gelfin]

Originally posted by iGAV
I can't stand aqua either..... that's why I have it set to graphite......

I'd still like Apple to give us a stripped down OSX setting, so that the thing doesn't take up some much memory...... also it's be much faster.... sometimes I need speed.... and lot's of it.......

Heh. They do. At the login prompt, log in as '>console' with no password.

Hmm. Assuming they haven't disabled that. I haven't checked recently.

 

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
Dude, you can download duality and get rid of the stripes. Seriously, they are not that bad. They give the interface depth. Oh, and scrolling on a celeron. Come on. My Athlon 1400 with 1 gig o ram scrolled no different than my iMac with a gig o Ram. iMac 600 se by the way. With all my MP3's in icon view XP would take longer to generate the folder, would not scroll as well. What are the specs of the systems you are comparing.

My game system at home, with an XP2100+, win2k, 768MB of Ram (PC2100), 320GB drive volume (two 160GB drives set as RAID 0 via a ATA133 RAID card), and Radeon 8500 video card, scrolls just about the same as my OS X 800MHz TiBook with 768MB of RAM and the Radeon 7500 video. If anything the TiBook scrolls better.

 

[Backtothemac]

Originally posted by Megaquad

320 MB pc133/osx 10.1.5

Ok. That is part of the problem. You are on a Mac that is what. Almost 3 years old. Trying to run the most modern operating system for home users on the planet. Not a good idea. Run XP on a 3 year old PC. It is not pretty. Same with X. Move to a system that a year or less, and you will see the difference. Now, that little Mac you have will support 512 megs at least, and I think that is the summer 2000 indigo correct? If it is the blueberry then I think it is 512. Indigo should be 1 gig, but I am not sure. That is the 350 without firewire right?

To compare the two is unfair. Compare you system in 9 to his in 98 on your Celeron and your G3. That is a fair comparison. The Mac should smoke it. Well. Oh, and if you do go with more memory in the system, go with PC 100. That Mac will support 133, but it is better with 100, as it is a 100 MHZ bus.

 

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


My game system at home, with an XP2100+, win2k, 768MB of Ram (PC2100), 320GB drive volume (two 160GB drives set as RAID 0 via a ATA133 RAID card), and Radeon 8500 video card, scrolls just about the same as my OS X 800MHz TiBook with 768MB of RAM and the Radeon 7500 video. If anything the TiBook scrolls better.

Mate, that's a top PC setup! What do u do on it that requires 320Gb of disk space?
...of couse, ur 800Mhz TiBook is better

 

[drastik]

I do a lot of FLash work on my G3 400 powerbook with a wimpy little card running a big external monitor. Its not slow at all. I have 448 RAM, so that might help. On the other hand, most PC users don't take care of thier machines, maybe thats a hangover from your old days. It really sounds like something isn't working right in there, I'd look to the RAM. If you put off brand stuff in there, it can really foul you up.

 

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Listen, fool, I said "for placing a heXPee theme on top of OS X". Open your damned eyes and READ! sheeesh Do I say "to switch on xp"?? F*ck NO!

Scrolling inside of OS X is smooth, in the finder you can do as little or as much as you like. Since you DIDN'T mention WHICH scroll-mouse you have, it's hard to say, but I would venture to say the mouse is the crappy part (especially if it is an m$ mouse).

Aqua is NOT crap. You CAN customize it IF you want to through either changing the colors, or other 'hacks'. But to put something that makes it look like heXPee is just WRONG!

Before you put up another 'response' get your head out of your a$$ and think about it...

BTW, you really should think about running some utilities on your poor little iMac (especially if you have the 350MHz and have never done it). There are some unix commands you can use to work on that. The other utilities can really liven up OS 9 on your supposed crash prone system. If you never ran them before, you only have yourself to blame for ALL of your iMac problems.

every day i thank god i am not one of those people,poor idiots like you
and as for scrolling,it is not problem in my mouse,it is problem in...well READ what i said,i am not gonna repeat this million times buzz of
why is it wrong to put it look like XP??
because it is microsoft? if somebody else made same interface i bet you wouldnt dislike it!
as for unix utilities,in osx my only issue is speed and interface,i prebinded entire osx partition..yeah it helped little,as for aqua interface,i solved it partially with duality,large fonts are annoying me!
you missunderstood me about os9 crashes,it crashes about 2-3 times a day..mostly IE,and it is not my fault
my poor mac? you think i wouldnt be sitting in front of dual g4 now if i had money?

 

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by verbose101

Mate, that's a top PC setup! What do u do on it that requires 320Gb of disk space?
...of couse, ur 800Mhz TiBook is better

heh heh heh... What do I use it for??? Why, games of course, and only games. Any real work is done on my TiBook. Essentially, I fire up the TiBook every day, but the pc only on weekends, when I feel a need to kill... kill kill kill kill kill kill kill kill... heh heh

I love the TiBook, and deal with the game pc. Windblows can be such a PAIN IN THE ASS!! It's not even funny. Installing the network printer on my TiBook was a snap, I almost had to get a live chicken (for voodoo) to get it onto the pc.

 

[edesignuk]

And you need 320Gb for games? maybe a little over the top?

 

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by drastik
I do a lot of FLash work on my G3 400 powerbook with a wimpy little card running a big external monitor. Its not slow at all. I have 448 RAM, so that might help. On the other hand, most PC users don't take care of thier machines, maybe thats a hangover from your old days. It really sounds like something isn't working right in there, I'd look to the RAM. If you put off brand stuff in there, it can really foul you up.

yeah right..like i am the only one complaining about flash mx speed..check out flashkit.com forums

 

[Backtothemac]

I gave you a serious solution to your problem. Yes you have a Mac. Great. But your attitude is very Anti-Apple. That is fine. Here is the deal. Don't blame crashes in 9 on Apple and your machine when in fact 20 posts later it is reveiled that it is IE that is causing the problems.

Now, try another browser. That will help. You are trying to run X on too little computer. Just like trying to run Xp on that celeron 400. It won't work.

Stick with 9 until you can afford a new mac, and get Mozilla.

 

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by Backtothemac


Ok. That is part of the problem. You are on a Mac that is what. Almost 3 years old. Trying to run the most modern operating system for home users on the planet. Not a good idea. Run XP on a 3 year old PC. It is not pretty. Same with X. Move to a system that a year or less, and you will see the difference. Now, that little Mac you have will support 512 megs at least, and I think that is the summer 2000 indigo correct? If it is the blueberry then I think it is 512. Indigo should be 1 gig, but I am not sure. That is the 350 without firewire right?

To compare the two is unfair. Compare you system in 9 to his in 98 on your Celeron and your G3. That is a fair comparison. The Mac should smoke it. Well. Oh, and if you do go with more memory in the system, go with PC 100. That Mac will support 133, but it is better with 100, as it is a 100 MHZ bus.

i have 350 mhz blueberry,bought just before new imacs came out for mwny 2000..
indigo model is same like blueberry (no firewire)
my mac is terribly slow even in os9,that poor celeron bought in same time i bought this mac is faster in everything 2x or more then my imac! it is unbeliveable!
mp3s rip 12x and faster from cd,my friend get 400 megaflops and i can bearly reach 180 megaflops..
when i switch between applications,it switches soo slooow..on pc its instantly
especially (adobe/macromedia graph.apps too) there are so many things.. its just faster! i use osx for flashing/dreamweaver etc. because of quartz,it is somewhat more usable
its not just me..i didnt have chance to try many macs,but i tried imac g3500mhz and g4 400..situation is more or less same.. ahh what can be done..ill just wait till i buy new mac and stop complaining

 

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
I gave you a serious solution to your problem. Yes you have a Mac. Great. But your attitude is very Anti-Apple. That is fine. Here is the deal. Don't blame crashes in 9 on Apple and your machine when in fact 20 posts later it is reveiled that it is IE that is causing the problems.

Now, try another browser. That will help. You are trying to run X on too little computer. Just like trying to run Xp on that celeron 400. It won't work.

Stick with 9 until you can afford a new mac, and get Mozilla.

i am in mozzila and os9 now,window redraws are annoying me but ill hold on
i dont get crashes that often in os9..3 times a day when i have many apps open for a long time etc. and they dont bother me (i was never bothered by crashes in win98 but whatever..)
as for my attitude..twice every year i get pissed of on my computer (i really have nothing to impress potential switchers to mac,no one ever said my mac is fast)
dont think that i stand on winblowz side when some bih mac vs. pc flame is going on (im tired of these..),you are all mac users..those dark secrets i tell only to you..noone will hear me

 

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by verbose101
And you need 320Gb for games? maybe a little over the top?

Maybe, but I don't want to run out of space. I went from a pair of 40GB drive (as a 80GB RAID 0 volume) to the 160GB's because I had someone that wanted to purchase the 40GB drives from me. The RAID controller's drivers wouldn't see the drives as a RAID, so I had to get a RAID PCI card.

Still, having the RAID 0 gives me a performance boost (over single drives), which is appreciated in games.

The next thing I will be doing to the game box is changing the fan on the processor heat sink from a 60mm to either an 80mm or 92mm (with an aluminum adapter). I will also put a fan grill onto it so that cables/cords inside the box do not touch the fan blades. After that, I plan on going with the round ATA ribbons, just to make the air move a bit better.

 

[Backtothemac]

Dude, you need to have your Mac serviced. Seriously. There is something wrong with that Mac. There is no way that a celeron can turn 400 Megaflops either. Someone is really lieing to you on that one. No way can it do it. A 400 MHZ celeron is slower than a PII 233. Think about that. Get your Mac to a Dr. It needs it bad.

 

[AlphaTech]

Megaquad, you still failed to state if you have EVER run utilities on your poor little iMac... If you haven't then the chances are very high that is the problem. Drive/file fragmentation will bring your Mac to it's knees faster then a $5 whore.

Get some utilities, run them on OS 9.x (update to the latest verison of 9.2.2) and then run fsck -y to repair OS X. To run the last one, hold down the Apple+s on boot, and then when you can type in something, enter fsck -y. Run it until everything comes up as 'ok' and tell it to restart (don't force it to).

System maintenance and a little bit of preventative[/intelligent] maintenance WILL make your system perform much better.

 

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by AlphaTech
Megaquad, you still failed to state if you have EVER run utilities on your poor little iMac... If you haven't then the chances are very high that is the problem. Drive/file fragmentation will bring your Mac to it's knees faster then a $5 whore.

Get some utilities, run them on OS 9.x (update to the latest verison of 9.2.2) and then run fsck -y to repair OS X. To run the last one, hold down the Apple+s on boot, and then when you can type in something, enter fsck -y. Run it until everything comes up as 'ok' and tell it to restart (don't force it to).

System maintenance and a little bit of preventative[/intelligent] maintenance WILL make your system perform much better.

i defraged disk with norton utils few months ago..it was somewhat faster yeah..but disk isnt exactly my problem..cpu is..and there is probably wrong with it,its just g3 350 mhz..i shouldnt be expecting more from it

 

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by Backtothemac
Dude, you need to have your Mac serviced. Seriously. There is something wrong with that Mac. There is no way that a celeron can turn 400 Megaflops either. Someone is really lieing to you on that one. No way can it do it. A 400 MHZ celeron is slower than a PII 233. Think about that. Get your Mac to a Dr. It needs it bad.

its like this since i bought it..those damn celerons were always faster then my imac..
its tragic actually..
ok,im gonna try that cmd+s thing now

 

[Choppaface]

dude you are SO wrong! blue is by far the best color in the world!! how could you not like aqua???

 

[AlphaTech]

Originally posted by Megaquad

i defraged disk with norton utils few months ago..it was somewhat faster yeah..but disk isnt exactly my problem..cpu is..and there is probably wrong with it,its just g3 350 mhz..i shouldnt be expecting more from it

No other utilities?? Which version of Norton?? If it is anything older then 6.0.x then you need to get updated. Also, I hope you ran it off the cd (after booting from it), otherwise, you only did a half-assed job.

 

[King Cobra]

Originally posted by Choppaface
dude you are SO wrong! blue is by far the best color in the world!! how could you not like aqua???

I wonder what gold would look like.

Damn, 320GB sounds like a lot for a peecee. And I am sure that problems is not too funny with it, as I know the misery of peecees.

Who said OS 9 gave you more errors than Winblows 98? Well, since that has been resolved, let me say that Apple has raised the level of competition with OS X. And although complXPee is slightly improved (especially over 98) it is still complXPee.

 

[Megaquad]

Originally posted by AlphaTech


No other utilities?? Which version of Norton?? If it is anything older then 6.0.x then you need to get updated. Also, I hope you ran it off the cd (after booting from it), otherwise, you only did a half-assed job.

yes,6.0,i defraged it from other partition...then installed it on defraged partition and defraged other partition..

 

[alex_ant]

I'm going to stand up and be uncool and say that, for the most part, I really like how Windows XP looks. I think the icons are cute and very well done, and I really like the strong solid colors look. I wouldn't want all that color if I were a graphic designer who needed neutral gray/white/black widgets etc., but I'm not. The solid colors really grab my attention and are great to look at, but they're nowhere near the full-on photon assault of the almost-completely-white Aqua. Some say XP looks like "Fisher-Price" - well, sheesh, call me a toddler, but I didn't realize the colors "green" and "blue" and "orange" were so puerile, and I didn't realize white pinstripes were so mature and sophisticated. What's funny is that the people bashing Luna's look are the same ones who loved the fruity colored iMacs (which I also loved).

To all the Mac users who say they hate the look of XP and looooooove Aqua - be honest now - if Apple designed Luna and used THAT in OS X, and Microsoft later responded with Aqua for use in XP, which one would you like better now? Would you still be longing for pinstripes and throbbing candy drops? If the sole reason y'all don't like Luna is because it's an MS product, keep in mind that MS didn't even design it. It's funny how all of MS's best products (I use that term in a relative sense) were designed by other companies. (Luna... Intellimice/gamepads/keyboards... ... um... yes)

Alex