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Philberttheduck

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I just purchased an external HD. I formated the baby to NTFS, hoping that it would read with the mac. Unforunately, it didn't. I looked it up and saw that Mac users can't WRITE/MODIFY on NTFS, just read the data.

My question is, I was searching online for a NTFS-Mac-modify thing, but im not sure if such a thing exists. Is it possible for mac users to write on an NTFS harddrive?
 
Pretty much. The downside is that you can't have a single file that is larger than 4Gb. Unless you have some very large movies this shouldn't be a problem.

And Macs can't write to NTFS due to Microsoft not licensing it out.
 
I'd be interested to see if the whole Boot Camp program will eventually pan out into a method for OS X to read AND write to NTFS volumes, instead of just being able to read currently.
 
Hang on,

So what format is mine?

I was once limited to only 3.99 GB file transfers, then i bought a FW800 drive, and reformatted the other and now i just transferred over 50 GB.

What format am i using if i used to be using Fat32?

Rich.
 
fatsoforgotso said:
I was once limited to only 3.99 GB file transfers, then i bought a FW800 drive, and reformatted the other and now i just transferred over 50 GB.

Wait, wait, wait... Just so we're clear... 4GB in *ONE* file. Not total transfer. You can transfer 50 GB back and forth between a FAT32 volume without any problems.

But is this a PC/Mac compatible drive? If you format it in HFS+, you won't have the 4GB limitation, but you won't be able to read it on a PC without special software. HFS+ is the native OS X format.
 
mkrishnan said:
Wait, wait, wait... Just so we're clear... 4GB in *ONE* file. Not total transfer. You can transfer 50 GB back and forth between a FAT32 volume without any problems.

But is this a PC/Mac compatible drive? If you format it in HFS+, you won't have the 4GB limitation, but you won't be able to read it on a PC without special software. HFS+ is the native OS X format.

HFS+

That's it, that's what i have formatted mine to.

It is ok as i don't use a PC so i can afford to go OS X native.

I needed to transfer certain files, a Capture folder for Final Cut Pro. So that's why i had to reformat.

Rich.
 
how can i reformat the harddrive to fat32 via mac? do i have to go to my pc and reformat it (if so how do i do it?)
 
A Mac can format it to Fat32.

Open Disk Utility in /Applications/Utilities.

Select the disk to format on the left. Choose the erase tab and the volume format should be MSDOS I believe. It might say FAT but it definitely says something about DOS. There is only one option like that so it should be obvious.
 
Philberttheduck said:
how can i reformat the harddrive to fat32 via mac? do i have to go to my pc and reformat it (if so how do i do it?)

I think you can use Disk Utility to do this. 🙂
 
Couldn't you also partition the HD, with one being an NTFS partition and another a FAT32 or HFS+ so you can use the drive for both computers without having to compromise with FAT32's <4gig single file limit?

I know it's a bit of a heavy handed fix, but I'm saying in theory is that possible?
 
SC68Cal said:
Couldn't you also partition the HD, with one being an NTFS partition and another a FAT32 or HFS+ so you can use the drive for both computers without having to compromise with FAT32's <4gig single file limit?

I know it's a bit of a heavy handed fix, but I'm saying in theory is that possible?

It is, but the whole reason people use FAT32 is cross-platform read/write compatibility. So any files not in your FAT32 partition will have trouble...

A better solution would probably be to get MacDrive on the Windows computer, and use HFS+ (since there's no good NTFS read/write solution on MacOS, surprisingly).
 
mkrishnan said:
It is, but the whole reason people use FAT32 is cross-platform read/write compatibility.

I totally understand that, I'm just saying for the sake of poops and giggles.
 
Philberttheduck said:
what are the downsides of fat32? my uncle told me i can't transfer past 3.99GB of a file/single apps.
There is also a limit to hard drive size with FAT32. I believe windows will only see a maximum of 137GB on a FAT32 drive. I am not sure about OSX.
 
Philberttheduck said:
i have macdrive installed. how do i keep it in "HTFS"? (so many Mac OS X versions to choose from)😱

I'm so lost... First of all, disks don't suddenly change format. So once you format the disk, it'll stay in that filesystem unless you go and change it. And it isn't like a button click, so you're not going to do it accidentally very easily... 😉

Second, what is HTFS? Do you mean HFS+? The latter is the format that MacOS prefers.

I believe that what you want to do is format it HFS+ via disk utility on a Mac. Then, once it is formatted, you can mount it on the Windows computer using MacDrive. And doing so won't have any effect on the filesystem type it uses.
 
i had the same situation you are now having and i went with Mac OS Extended b/c i didnt need it to be used as a boot and i wasnt going to use it to journal my mac, although if your expecting something to go horribly wrong and your mac to crash in flames, them maybe a journaled format should be considered, but a lot of people just go with Mac OS Extended.
 
bordenkecher said:
i had the same situation you are now having and i went with Mac OS Extended b/c i didnt need it to be used as a boot and i wasnt going to use it to journal my mac, although if your expecting something to go horribly wrong and your mac to crash in flames, them maybe a journaled format should be considered, but a lot of people just go with Mac OS Extended.

that's what i meant to ask.. thanks bordenkecher

I have MacDrive installed into my iMac's XP. So it should be able to read/write the HFS+ in XP, should I need it to. Thanks much
 
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