CarPlay Praised as Wider Rollout Begins, but Lacks Smarts of Google Maps and Google Now

[LizKat]

Hey now, you've been taking it pretty seriously from the beginning yourself. Just saying.

And don't assume we're all guys... because we're not

Hmm. I do have a tendency to say "you guys" but it's meant as "you all". I grew up in a family of "you guys" and half of us are women, so... I wasn't assuming anything.

My objection has been to demeaning the baby naming ceremony, especially after it was pointed out that many cultures consider that a formal welcoming of the baby into community is an essential and therefore significant event. I don't care who (or what gender) does the demeaning. I mean there's ignorance, and then there's willful ignorance. We passed that point in this thread awhile back, so I hammered on it while trying to stay on topic and point out that Ms. Stern was indeed focused on the test of the Car Play app's routing features, and that it was her job to test the app...

 

[gt1948]

ok....whats up Toyota?

 

[Mildredop]

warning me of speed traps than a radar detector. And not just speed traps, it also warns of construction zones that require lane changes, stuff that fell out of trucks on the road that might damage your wheels, vehicles pulled over, pot holes, etc. Basically, I feel safer driving with Waze. I can slow-down ahead of time for whatever is ahead of me that I can't see.

I'm one of those traditional drivers that adheres to the speed limit, so speed trap alerts are pointless to me.

I'm also one of those traditional drivers that prefers to look at the road ahead to see any obstructions rather than wait for my phone to warn me (I'm sure for every time it warns you of something, there are several things it doesn't warn you about).

The only thing I personally preferred about Waze (and Here maps) is that it shows you the current speed limit and your speed, something Google Maps annoyingly doesn't.

 

[diamond.g]

What I find a bit of a fail is that the display, (especially for the Nav function) , is down by your knees.
I’m not at all a fan of touch screens in cars but it looks nice enough.

Does it not display the directions in the main display (MFI)?

 

[oneMadRssn]

I'm one of those traditional drivers that adheres to the speed limit, so speed trap alerts are pointless to me.

I'm also one of those traditional drivers that prefers to look at the road ahead to see any obstructions rather than wait for my phone to warn me (I'm sure for every time it warns you of something, there are several things it doesn't warn you about).

The only thing I personally preferred about Waze (and Here maps) is that it shows you the current speed limit and your speed, something Google Maps annoyingly doesn't.

You don't have to intentionally speed to get caught in a speed trap. I can't speak about the whole country, but I know the northeast states here have sneaky areas where the speed limit goes from 55mph to 35mph with a seemingly intentionally small and inconspicuous sign right next to a tree; very easy to miss them. They do this especially on a single-lane state highways that lead to popular ski areas, where the speed limit drops while in a "town" that is actually little more than a few barns. At the very least, the speed trap warning reminds me to check myself and see what the actual speed limit is. I know plenty of drivers that try to adhere to the speed limit that have received tickets in Maine and Vermont in such circumstances.

 

[NorEaster]

Location data is not email. The original quotation was about reading your email.

True, but you're just mincing words now. If I read your prior post correctly, you're slamming google for it's monetization of your personal info, and that personal info can come in many forms - not just email. Furthermore, your prior post can be interpreted as a claim that Apple doesn't use personal info for monetization purposes. I wanted to point out to you that Apple isn't as innocent as you think. Here's another snippet from Apple's SLA:

"By using Spotlight or Spotlight Suggestions in Safari, you agree and consent to Apple’s and its subsidiaries’ and agents’ transmission, collection, maintenance, processing, and use of this information to make Spotlight Suggestions more relevant and to improve other Apple products and services."

Still want to argue that Apple is this "holier-than-the-rest-of-the-software world" company that would never use your personal info and usage-specific data for their own profit? If so, I guess the RDF is strong in you. Carry on then, disciple of the Apple Church.

For the record, I think the Proactive Suggestions in iOS 9 are going to be great and I actually don't care if some day in the future, Apple reads my emails and generates a shopping list for me when I walk into a grocery store, based on an email that my spouse sends to me. And I've been an Apple user & developer for longer than many folks on this forum. But I don't try to brainwash myself into thinking Apple isn't the same as any other company out there when it comes to use of personal or usage-specific data.

 

[animatedude]

what about Jaguar?

 

[LordVic]

ok....whats up Toyota?

I believe Toyota has already stated that they will not be including Apple CarPlay or Android Auto into their 2016 (and possibly 2017) Head Units and have opted to stay with their own in house platform.

as someone who owns a 2012 Camry, with a QNX based touchscreen system that in thoery could support it if they'd unlock the software, I find this move rather stupid.

Their in house developed platform is terrible. I never use it other than piping audio from my phone. the Maps are horrible, outdated and never give me a good route. And half the reported bluetooth functions (like reading email and stuff) doesn't work with anything newer than a BlackBerry running OS6

My next car won't be a Toyota. Once this car is paid off this year, i'm going car shopping

 

[cocky jeremy]

You don't ever use public transit? Never want to check the traffic before you're in youre vehicle? Don't look up a place to eatg on yelp and want to go directly to navigation without having to type it into your in car gps unit?

Unfortunately I don't have experience with VW navigation, but I have done ford, audi (same as VW?), toyota, and honda (and Dodge in a friends truck) and nothing compares to a smartphone in my book.

Public transit? Never. Check traffic? Very rarely. You can look up places to get food via VW's navigation as well.

 

[lordofthereef]

Public transit? Never. Check traffic? Very rarely. You can look up places to get food via VW's navigation as well.

Hey, fair enough. It works for you, so that's all that matters. If you're never checking traffic I REALLY envy you HAHA! I was just trying to point out some features that I have never found even come close in a car company's answer to navigation when compared to what we can get on our mobile devices, not limited to Apple, mind you.

 

[lordofthereef]

as someone who owns a 2012 Camry, with a QNX based touchscreen system that in thoery could support it if they'd unlock the software, I find this move rather stupid.

I don't disagree. At the same time, I don't feel car play provides the utility that most people want that would justify licensing costs. I think carplay has the potential to be astounding*, but Apple has to make it so. Right now it's just something with a whole lot of potential.

*please don't take the Apple TV route. I am not convinced it is dead, and we may get a mind blowing Apple TV this year, but I would like not to wait as long for carplay.

 

[cocky jeremy]

Hey, fair enough. It works for you, so that's all that matters. If you're never checking traffic I REALLY envy you HAHA! I was just trying to point out some features that I have never found even come close in a car company's answer to navigation when compared to what we can get on our mobile devices, not limited to Apple, mind you.

Where I live, it's rarely an issue. If it is, there are always a lot of ways around accidents/road work.

 

[mcsc]

Screw them both. When is Waze releasing a car-play compatible app?

Get the Pioneer AppRadio4. It has CarPlay and a second connection for AppRadio which includes Waze support. only$499 at Crutchfield now.