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Carriers Quiet on Prospects for FaceTime Over Cellular Networks with iOS 6
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bah!
facetime will never be big no one needs it over 3G and it won't affect the networks one bit.
If anything needs to change its the data caps and lack of regulation. Home BB is pretty much settled now with caps being upfront and centre and unlimited being actually unlimited and only p2p being throttled by most.
The same needs to happen to Mobile carriers now. They are messing with us, they systems are plenty capable and should have been upgraded long ago. I'm sorry but we have gone from 56k modems to 100MB fibre in a few years yet wireless somehow is harder yet they don't even need wires to end users and charge a gazillion times more cash for it.
facetime will never be big no one needs it over 3G and it won't affect the networks one bit.
If anything needs to change its the data caps and lack of regulation. Home BB is pretty much settled now with caps being upfront and centre and unlimited being actually unlimited and only p2p being throttled by most.
The same needs to happen to Mobile carriers now. They are messing with us, they systems are plenty capable and should have been upgraded long ago. I'm sorry but we have gone from 56k modems to 100MB fibre in a few years yet wireless somehow is harder yet they don't even need wires to end users and charge a gazillion times more cash for it.
So glad I don't have to worry about this. I'm with three in the UK on a tariff known as the (one plan) £35pm and its proper all you can eat data with no limits) tethering is also included in the price, saved quite a bit of money actually as I don't have a need for a 3G iPad. Can just use my wifi model on the train coupled with my 4S.
I'd maybe be worried if I was with o2 though LOL. Everything seems like an extra with them.
I was with them when I had my iPhone 3G (Possibly the worst 3G signal ever) partly because it was non existent 95% of the time in my area and I don't even live rural, I live in a medium sized town.
I'd maybe be worried if I was with o2 though LOL. Everything seems like an extra with them.
I was with them when I had my iPhone 3G (Possibly the worst 3G signal ever) partly because it was non existent 95% of the time in my area and I don't even live rural, I live in a medium sized town.
Another ThreeUK customer here with All You Can Eat Data - keep asking them for a statement regarding Facetime in iOS6 but they have yet to comment!
been using facetime for years over 3G
it works well.
it is a little overrated though
it's not pleasant to hold the phone and have a fat face talking to someone else!
it works well.
it is a little overrated though
it's not pleasant to hold the phone and have a fat face talking to someone else!
When will the carriers realize that they are just pipes and are not adding value. The should be prohibited from limiting devices on their network as long as they don't cause damage.
its cheaper for me to just use an MNVO like Straight Talk and buy my yearly iPhone outright than to have a contract with anyone.
Unlimited Everything for $45/mo, its cheaper to pay my contract cancellation fee, and buy the iPhone 5 outright than to pay for the year of capped/tiered at&t bs.
Something MUST be done about this highway robbery pricing structure for mobile carriers. I'd love to see the justification behind charging $50 for 1GB of shared data transfer per month... this is 2012, not 2002.
Unlimited Everything for $45/mo, its cheaper to pay my contract cancellation fee, and buy the iPhone 5 outright than to pay for the year of capped/tiered at&t bs.
Something MUST be done about this highway robbery pricing structure for mobile carriers. I'd love to see the justification behind charging $50 for 1GB of shared data transfer per month... this is 2012, not 2002.
They can only overcharge you if you allow them to. If the service they provide is not valuable, then find another way to send your data/make calls. Or don't send data/make calls.
Don't wish that they "be prohibited". Prohibit them yourself. You have the power, if you have what it takes to exercise it.
"Available on all iOS devices"
Except the iPhone 4 it seems...
The carriers were never going to like it, but then people do have to pay for their data generally these days, so it should be a nice little earner for them.
Except the iPhone 4 it seems...
The carriers were never going to like it, but then people do have to pay for their data generally these days, so it should be a nice little earner for them.
I think in this case, silence means no. The carriers don't want Facetime over their networks, because it's a huge drain on their already over-stressed data networks. If they were going to allow Facetime, they'd be a lot more excited about it, and probably trying to hype it up.
Data Caps are BS
Whether it be mobile caps or home caps, data caps bring us back to the old days of AOL. In those days we had to pay for each minute of service used. Now that customers have "discovered" VOIP (as was mentioned by earlier posters, Skype, JB FaceTime, and other VOIP solutions have been on the iPhone for a long time) the carriers want to bring us backwards and impose ludicrously small data caps. If you want a realistic data cap for a mobile device in 2012 - think 50 GB. We aren't looking at .gifs and micro-mobile web pages anymore. If you want us to use the "cloud" (another re-branded solution) or "stream" (re-brand) and buy "apps" (Software) then let us use the freakin' bandwidth we need to do it.
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hahaha I have the same problem with my fat face on FaceTime and Skype! hopefully the new diet works
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Whether it be mobile caps or home caps, data caps bring us back to the old days of AOL. In those days we had to pay for each minute of service used. Now that customers have "discovered" VOIP (as was mentioned by earlier posters, Skype, JB FaceTime, and other VOIP solutions have been on the iPhone for a long time) the carriers want to bring us backwards and impose ludicrously small data caps. If you want a realistic data cap for a mobile device in 2012 - think 50 GB. We aren't looking at .gifs and micro-mobile web pages anymore. If you want us to use the "cloud" (another re-branded solution) or "stream" (re-brand) and buy "apps" (Software) then let us use the freakin' bandwidth we need to do it.
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been using facetime for years over 3G
it works well.
it is a little overrated though
it's not pleasant to hold the phone and have a fat face talking to someone else!
hahaha I have the same problem with my fat face on FaceTime and Skype! hopefully the new diet works
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Dude, what planet are you living on. Home caps do exist, they are far too small for this day and age, and like any caps they are antiquated and need to be abolished. Anyone who supports data caps doesn't know jack about computers. This tired argument of the carriers/cables can't "handle the stress" is the lamest justification I have ever heard for ripping off consumers.
maybe they didn't know how to code it well enough, or they realize that it would be integrated and so used more than Skype which not as many people have and is an app you have to install.
I'm just glad Apple does stuff like this and pushes companies to adapt. Pretty much "hey, we let you do it - ask THOSE guys why you can't."
Will it really go via our networks?
I mean iMessages all bypass our networks so why can't it do so with FaceTime calls?
I mean iMessages all bypass our networks so why can't it do so with FaceTime calls?
You talk like if Facetime-over-3G wasn't allowed by a previous agreement between Apple and carriers. How do you explain when iOS5 allowed wi-fi hotspot function only when the carrier allowed it or, moreover, only when the user paid an extra fee to use this function?
I can't see how VoIP can have better quality then something using a cell or land network that's not based on IPs. Data packets get lost through the Internet.
cell and landline is also ip data packets once they get past the cell tower or the phone switch. have been for many years. decades probably
I am sure where AT&T and Verizon can cash in on it, they will, all of them are looking to make money, so why not charge for a service, or make you get a larger data plan, we all know this is going to eventually cost more anyway.
Sprint may not charge more, but they are bleeding cash and customers, so they will do anything to get more business, just not sure their networks can handle it anyway.
Sprint may not charge more, but they are bleeding cash and customers, so they will do anything to get more business, just not sure their networks can handle it anyway.