Cartoon Settings For Handbrake

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by Mrrrrt, May 7, 2009.

  1. Mrrrrt macrumors newbie

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    Hi everyone, I currently started ripping my Family Guy and South Park dvds to digital format using Handbrake. In the past my dvd movies look great with an optimized Universal Apple setting in Handbrake. However, I ran into the dreaded Interlaced Video issue. I understand that settings are based on individual preferences, but I was trying to get some suggestions from anyone that has ripped these dvds already and has had success. I read the handbrake instructions for interlaced video, but I'm not completely understanding everything. I made some adjustments and the shows look decent, but I think they could look better. Current settings:
    Apple Universal Setting
    Constant Quality : 60%
    Detelecine : Yes
    Deinterlace : Fast
    Decomb : Default
    Like I said, they look ok, just not as good as I thought. If anyone has any suggestions before I rip all the seasons, I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks!
     
  2. dynaflash macrumors 68020

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    Do not use Deinterlace with Decomb. Use one or the other and if you have any interest in quality, never use HB's Fast deinterlacer, it throws away half the lines of resolution.

    I suggest just decomb and see how you like it.
     
  3. NightStorm macrumors 68000

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    Do what dynaflash said, and I'd really lower your CQ from 60%... no reason to have it so high for poorly-animated cartoons.
     
  4. Mr Kram macrumors 68000

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    general question - is decomb "better" than de-interlace (slowest)?

    i always use de-interlace for my kid's dvds that need it.
     
  5. NightStorm macrumors 68000

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    If it is a pure interlaced source, then I'd continue using deinterlace. Otherwise, I'd use decomb and let HB determine if a frame needs deinterlacing or not.
     
  6. Mrrrrt thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for replying so fast everyone. I'll try lowering the CQ just a tad and use decomb only and post how it turned out compared to the other rips.
     
  7. dernhelm macrumors 68000

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    It sounds like decomb is something I'm going to have to start playing with. I've never used decomb, but I will vouch for the slow de-interlacer if you have the time. I got very good results using "slow". I will agree with the poster that said the "fast" deinterlacer generally provided much poorer results.
     
  8. Mrrrrt thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Ok, so I ripped an episode of Family guy using only the decomb filter and the quality is what I am looking for. However, I am still getting some static/noise on the mouths of the characters. It looks like horizontal lines, but much better than using no filter at all. It's tolerable, but I would like to remedy this if I can. I am definitely on the right track, thanks for the help so far.
     
  9. eddyg macrumors 6502

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    Since these are all interlaced, use deinterlace slowest. Decomb works best on movies etc where the majority is progressive and some is interlaced.

    That said decomb just keeps on getting better and better.

    Cheers Ed
     
  10. Mrrrrt thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I also forgot to mention that in a handbrake forum I noticed that some of the users were using Detelecine and Decomb simultaneously for cartoon rips. I was wondering if this was over kill or will it remedy the few imperfections that were left with the encode? Also, I never asked NightStorm what Constant Quality setting will be consistent with the actual dvd, since you recommended a lower setting for these "lower quality" dvds. Thanks.
     
  11. sinisterdesign macrumors 6502

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    go-go-decomb

    yeah, i'm in the process of reripping an entire season of Venture Bros. after i discovered the decomb filter. as mentioned before deinterlace gets rid of the interlacing issue, but at the expense of detail. everything looks smudgy and the hard black edges of the cartoon cells were warbly (pardon my technical jargon). ;)

    i wasn't happy w/ the results of my first attempt, so i read up some more and noticed the decomb filter. edges look much smoother. i'm also using it for TV video with better, but still less than ideal results. detail looks better, but i'm still getting some interlacing. i'm poking around now to see what kind of custom settings i can find for decomb.

    let us know if you've already found the ideal settings for TV video...
     
  12. Mrrrrt thread starter macrumors newbie

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    So I've been encoding with the decomb filter only, with a constant quality of 58%, and the episodes of Family Guy look just as good as hdtv on my my Apple TV. I appreciate all the feedback. However, I started ripping my South Park DVDs with the same setting as Family Guy and they are taking twice as long and the file size is much larger. A typical Family guy episode is about 180mb, and a typical South Park episode is about 400mb, and it's taking a really long time to encode. I've even set the quality down to 40% just to see if it would get faster and it doesn't. Has anyone had luck encoding South Park dvds that look god on Apple Tv?
     
  13. Cox Orange macrumors 68000

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    Since this turned up, when I was googling for a similar topic, I want to add one info: if after applying decomb+de-telecine there is still problems with flickering, add "variable frame rate".
     

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