Caught in the Apple hype machine (iPhone 6s)

Discussion in 'Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices' started by Bazilio, Oct 1, 2015.

  1. Bazilio macrumors newbie

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    Picked up an iPhone 6s plus on launch day. Been playing around with it for the past few days trying to justify the cost, and have come to the conclusion that i just can't do it. It's a lovely phone, don't get me wrong. But it's just not worth what it costs.
    Back to my more than acceptable Note 4.
    Apple,you almost had me.
     
  2. SisterBlue22 macrumors 6502

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    Good for you for doing what's best for you. Doesn't mean it's best for everyone, and certainly doesn't mean anyone is caught up in any "hype machine"...it just means that others are also doing what's best for them.
     
  3. planetf1 macrumors 6502

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    The note is a high end device too. I've switched from s4... Nearly went s6 or note but very happy with the 6s+
     
  4. ZipZap macrumors 601

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    I think you could have made that assessment without a purchase taking a phone from someone that could afford it.
     
  5. Surf Donkey Suspended

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    Or this person has just as much right to buy and try as anyone else. I'd rather someone testing it against the Note over all these crazy people here making exchanges for a certain processor build or micrometer smudge that you can only see at half contrast when you tilt the phone right.
     
  6. Moki808 macrumors newbie

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    Happy that you have found what is right for you. I spent 10 months with a Note 4 and I have not been pleased. Probably the worse part, by far, was Android. The convoluted upgrade procedure was bad enough. But on top of that, Lolipop has been nothing but a problem for me, including constant Bluetooth issues. I am eagerly awaiting my return to IOS and iPhone. I believe there is a lot to be said for one company controlling the hardware and the software equation. With Android, you have three parties involved -- phone manufacturer, software designer, and the carrier. Not a recipe that went down well with this consumer.
     
  7. Surf Donkey Suspended

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    To be fair, something as big and popular as Apple is very much a hype machine. Look at the frenzy before every release without any real reviews yet. Look at the amount of press they get. Everyone and their grandma has one preordered. Makes those not using it curious what they are missing.
     
  8. ZipZap macrumors 601

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    Dont agree. I see no comparisons offered. Just "Cant justify the price".
     
  9. Andres Cantu macrumors 68030

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    That made me laugh! Even the grandmas want the latest and greatest, too! :D
     
  10. Surf Donkey, Oct 1, 2015
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    I am not sure what you don't get. For the price, the iphone is not worth the premium price tag to replace their current phone. Their note 4 works just fine for them. The iphone offered them nothing that seemed worth the money.

    Also not sure why you think some people deserve a phone over others. That is just silly.
     
  11. GadgetSN, Oct 2, 2015
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    That can be said for any new phone especially at release date prices. An Edge plus is not worth the premium over the Note 4 if you are looking for new features.

    However, I would never use a Note 4 at any price over an expensive Edge plus (mainly because of the cheap build of the Note 4).
     
  12. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    I get tempted to go back to the iPhone plenty of times, especially now that I just purchased a refurb MBP and keep thinking how nice an iPhone would go right along with it. But then I come to my senses and realize I'll only be able to deal with the restrictions of iOS for about a week, then I will be sick of it.
     
  13. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    Lets be real .....Apple does have a unique hype machine that's hard to resist. Ofcourse many people are caught up in it. And that's not necessarily a bad thing.
     
  14. SisterBlue22 macrumors 6502

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    I never said there wasn't hype surrounding Apple launches. But if people are making purchases solely based on that, they probably shouldn't have a credit card. :) Many of us make purchases based on research, personal preference, and logic. The "hype" surrounding Apple's launches is exciting, yes, but I would buy iPhones if the launches weren't the media frenzy that they are. My point to the OP was that the decision that is best for him isn't necessarily the decision that's best for everyone, and not everyone that makes a different decision from him does so because of the so-called "hype machine".
     
  15. geoff5093 macrumors 68000

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    I've been on Android for 6+ years, and decided to see what all the fuss was about with the iPhone so I pre-ordered the 6s 64GB. The phone is designed beautifully and feels great in hand. The display, while small, is fantastic.

    My issues are with the OS itself and just some oddities in general.
    • App navigation is horribly inconsistent. I find myself having to swipe down to go back to the previous page, then swipe left to go to the menu. I'm always swiping in different directions as each app seems to have their own preference which way to get back to where you were. Snapchat and Google Play Music are two that I use a lot which cause lots of confusion.
    • Duplicate notifications! When people like my Instagram photos or Snapchat me, my lockscreen and notification shade are filling up with tons of individual notifications like "such and such liked your photo", or "bob is typing". Do I really need to see a notification for when someone was typing to me in snapchat and when they sent it? Instagram is the worst where it lists them all out individually. Android is far better in this regard where it will say for example "Bob liked your photo" with a 25 in the corner letting you know how many people liked it, basically it combines all similar notifications together so you don't have to scroll through them all.
    • Notifications don't go away on their own. If I get a notification, why does it remain if I open the app manually and check it? If I get an email, read/delete it, then open my notification shade it's still there.
    • The camera won't remember my settings. I want HDR to be on all the time, why do I need to enable it manually every single time I open it up? And why can't I set photos to use 16:9 instead of 4:3?
    • You can't save a simple photo. I'm used to Android where you can have a photo in Dropbox, Email, a website, anywhere and just long press and save/download it. On iOS the only way I found to get a photo from a computer to my phone without plugging in is to upload it to the iCloud website and then connect to WiFi so it will sync.
    • No back button kills me. I hate having to figure out which way to swipe to go back, or hit the top left of the screen. So much easier especially when one handed to hit the back button next to home.
    • I can't change Mail to change from archive to delete. I just want to delete emails I don't need dammit!
    • The homescreen layout is so cluttered with useless apps that Apple even has an "extra" folder by default. Either let us hide/disable apps we don't need, or change the way apps are displayed. Also, why can't I simply organize apps on all other pages alphabetically? I hate how it puts them in by default in order of when they were installed, it's so much easier to find apps on Android when everything can be sorted.
     
  16. jamezr macrumors G3

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    I think you nailed it. I have both an iphone 6s+ and a Note 5. I find frustrations with both Android and IOS. But you nailed the most frustrating parts of IOS.
     
  17. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    Sadly, we are the minority.
     
  18. gotluck macrumors 603

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    I'm in the same boat too, I'd really enjoy and want a 64gb 6s but I haven't been able to justify paying $750 + tax for it
     
  19. epicrayban macrumors 603

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    100% agree on the inconsistent back-navigation issue and the lack of a back button. I've always and for a very long time spoken about this issue around here. The back-navigation can sometimes be upper left, upper right, center of screen, bottom-center of screen, bottom left or bottom right. Sometimes you can swipe to go back, sometimes you can't.

    It's infuriating and slows navigation down. It's one of the biggest reasons I have going back to iOS.

    Whereas on Android, there is a dedicated back button. Always there. Navigation becomes muscle memory. And natural.

    I would add to your list, the Settings menu is a mess and is inconsistent as well. Sometimes settings are within the app; sometimes the settings is in the main Settings menu.
     
  20. LIVEFRMNYC macrumors 603

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    That's been one of my complaints since day one. I can understand for default apps and accounts, but there is no reason for 3rd party app settings to be scattered all over the place.
     
  21. I7guy macrumors G5

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    Idk. 6s. HDR stays for me. Photos can be emailed, airdropped, imessaged etc. my mail settings are delete. The rest Meh
     
  22. geoff5093 macrumors 68000

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    I wanted to get a photo I took on my DSLR to my 6s to upload to Instagram. I put it in Dropbox but there was no way to save it to my phone, and the only share options where sharing the link. I them emailed it to my gmail but the mail app only let me view it, I couldn't save it share it. I have windows computers so no airdrop or imessage, so I had to upload it to icloud.com, connect to WiFi and sync.

    I have 3 email accounts, my exchange is delete buy gmail and outlook only had archive.

    Whenever I enable HDR, if I close out of the camera and back in its always back on auto. I was taking photos at night and the flash kept coming on, which is not possible in HDR mode.
     
  23. boast macrumors 65816

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    A $750+ Note 4 is also an overpriced hype phone.

    Get a nexus.
     
  24. geoff5093 macrumors 68000

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    Where did you get $750 for a Note 4? You can get an unlocked Note 5 for $600
     
  25. barbu macrumors regular

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    Hmm I can some of these being problems but some of them don't quite match what I experience on my phone.
    1. I have never seen an app where you swipe down to go back. Generally, swiping down refreshes a view. Swiping from the left to go back is more or less standard system-wide. And there is almost always a back button in the top left. Maybe someone can give an example of a different design but I am certain Apple apps, and apps that are properlycoded according to the HIG, will never have this problem.
    2. Notifications can be hectic. Use the settings to pare them down, most are useless anyway, such as Bob is typing.
    3. Again, not my experience. I just got a text. I opened Messages manually, read the message, and the notification is gone. Properly coded apps should behave themselves.
    4. My camera remembers this setting. Is your maybe on Auto? Tap "HDR" on the camera screen to set it On or Off manually.
    5. Again, strange that you have trouble here. I can long press a photo in Mail or Safari and save it to the photo roll. In the Dropbox app, I just use the standard action menu button to save an image.
    6. You can. Look in Settings> Mail, Contacts, Calendars> tap your mail account> tap advanced> look for "Move Discarded Messages Into:"
    7. This is a design decision/trade-off. I imagine the thinking is that people better remember where they spatially place something, rather than where it should be in a sorted list. I'm not saying you're wrong, just looking at it from another point of view. As for hiding apps, that would be nice. I don't let it bother me, but my wife gets POed.
     

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