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CBS Open to Talks on Apple TV, Depending on "What We Get Paid"

emaja said:
Ahh...understood.

Obviously if people buy it, Apple is meeting someone's needs. I'm glad that they do.
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Yep and "someone" means millions of ppl. Remember, Apple can only price and sell what the market will bear. So complaints about mp3 quality seem a little contrived since apple has no problem pushing their mp3s.

Tbh, no one cares. They just want cheap music! :p
 
hobo.hopkins said:
Ah, I see. Your reasons to hate Apple continue to change as you are introduced to facts.

1) To begin with you contended that they have never made anything cheaper for consumers - you are then introduced to the fact that music and mobile applications are now much cheaper as a result of Apple's influences. There's no reason to assume that television would be any different. If the introduced services were more expensive than what we have now, it wouldn't catch on.

2) So then the problem was that they didn't offer these services for "good reasons" - no one cares; things are still cheaper as a result.

3) Now the problem is that iTunes downloads are inferior in quality to CD's.

I see a pattern here, and your arguments about objectivity don't seem to correlate with this type of behaviour.
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1: As far as I can tell. Music costs the same weather you buy it on a CD, or buy it on an online store, the Apple store is actually a huge rip off, try Microsofts store. 15 a month for as much as you can download.

2: No, they aren't cheaper.

3: It is a problem for some people, I have a very expensive and very nice crown home audio system, I want a format that can actually take advantage of it.

Its not Apple hate, its the truth.
 
emaja said:
Just because it doesn't matter to you doesn't mean it isn't true. Some of us care about the differences and do have the systems to notice.



Ahh...understood.

Obviously if people buy it, Apple is meeting someone's needs. I'm glad that they do.
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You realize Apple caters to 90% of the consumer needs. They are perfectly glad to let some other company cater to the other 10% at no profit!
 
G51989 said:
1: As far as I can tell. Music costs the same weather you buy it on a CD, or buy it on an online store, the Apple store is actually a huge rip off, try Microsofts store. 15 a month for as much as you can download.

2: No, they aren't cheaper.

3: It is a problem for some people, I have a very expensive and very nice crown home audio system, I want a format that can actually take advantage of it.

Its not Apple hate, its the truth.
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Your points are true, i think our point is that the stuff you're saying has nothing to do with Apple. Itunes wouldn't be the success it is if people cared about the things you mentioned. They want 99 cent mp3s and are not audiophiles. For the minority like you you have other options like you mentioned like microsoft.
 
Cbs ...

Whatever CBS gets paid, it's too much.

Cable and satellite providers are the big problem, and the networks (all of them) need to un-bundle themselves and let those networks that have great programming live and those that don't die.

I am tired of paying Comcast a ridiculous amount of money each month (I can only watch one channel at a time of course) for channels I don't want. CBS is one of them.
 
axual said:
Whatever CBS gets paid, it's too much.

Cable and satellite providers are the big problem, and the networks (all of them) need to un-bundle themselves and let those networks that have great programming live and those that don't die.

I am tired of paying Comcast a ridiculous amount of money each month (I can only watch one channel at a time of course) for channels I don't want. CBS is one of them.
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What do you pay now? I bet under an Apple system, you'd be paying FAR more.

Right now, for 120 dollars. I get high speed cable internet, and a mid range cable package that has I think like 400 channels, most of them in HD, ( real HD, not streamed internet HD )
 
G51989 said:
What do you pay now? I bet under an Apple system, you'd be paying FAR more.

Right now, for 120 dollars. I get high speed cable internet, and a mid range cable package that has I think like 400 channels, most of them in HD, ( real HD, not streamed internet HD )
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You pay +/-$70 for those 400 channels, but how many do you actually watch? Many people are only watching 4 cable channels and would much prefer to pay for only what they watch. Under an Apple system, people might have a choice.
 
Tilpots said:
You pay +/-$70 for those 400 channels, but how many do you actually watch? Many people are only watching 4 cable channels and would much prefer to pay for only what they watch. Under an Apple system, people might have a choice.
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Under the Apple system, there is a VERY good chance you'll be paying 100+ a month for that, because if its anything like the iTunes system, that's what you'll pay, just for 5 shows. Apple isn't into the " anything less than 50% profit " on any product/service thing ;)

70 a month? Id say I watch the following

CBS
NBC
Fox
Discovery
ESPN
ESPN2
CNN
MSNBC
TNT
TBS
Military Channel
The Science Channel
And a bunch of other random ones.
And I get a ton of pay pre view channels that are well, already paid for, so its like a ton of movies on demand whenever I want

Most of this is in real 1080P to by the way, not the fragmented crap you get off iTunes/Netflix/Hulu/youtube
 
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^^^^ Pretty sure all of those are broadcast in 720p

Man a lot of hate on CBS. like it or not they are the number one network right now. NBC let football slip through their fingers and CBS picked up the AFC and really haven't looked back. Although NBC now has sunday night football.

Even if ala cart does happen. These cable companies have to make profit or there is no point in being in business. If everything went to online format. Where you could purchase a subscription to HBO for xx a month and stream the content or purchase a subscription to Discovery (they would still package their channels together i'm sure.) and stream the content, the fact remains you still need to stream the content. Most high speed internet connections are provided through the cable companies at unlimited data. The price of that will increase. You are going to pay for content one way or the other.
 
axual said:
Whatever CBS gets paid, it's too much.

Cable and satellite providers are the big problem, and the networks (all of them) need to un-bundle themselves and let those networks that have great programming live and those that don't die.

I am tired of paying Comcast a ridiculous amount of money each month (I can only watch one channel at a time of course) for channels I don't want. CBS is one of them.
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Then be prepared to kiss most new or original content goodbye. I love the people who cry "i don't want to pay for tv show I don't watch" will be this first ones crying "why are there no new shows on" if they get their way. If you think hollywood is monolithic in its variety of films, be prepared for TV to be the same thing.
 
So it turns out content isn't king after all - it's distribution that rules.

Interesting.
 
For broadcast/streaming (no physical media), the best video I've seen is Xbox 360 Zune 1080P streaming. The particular titles I rented (Doctor Who) were indistinguishable to me from the Blu-ray.

Second best is over-the-air antenna, which is 720P and 1080i. Prime time shows especially tend to look really great.

Third is sort of a tie for all of the following:

The cable and satellite I've seen, even when they claim to be 1080, really varies based on how much they compress it. At best, it's still third behind over-the-air. At its worst, it can look like crappy youtube videos.

Netflix and Hulu are all over the map, based mostly on the source material I think. At their best they can look pretty good, but not as good as over the air. At their worst it's like a dark, grainy horror movie on VHS.

emaja said:
CBS broadcasts 1080P?
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If you mean over the air, no. The ATSC HDTV format does not support 1080P.
 
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